“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Is it better for a woman to hate you than be "fond" of you?

Siragoos

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We all know women are emotional creatures. I'm wondering if, in terms of attraction, it's better for a woman to hate you than be "fond" of you or mildly like you.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Jair213

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hate is a strong word. no sane woman will find it better to hate you than to like you in terms of attraction.

leave that to the crazy's and bpd bishes!
 
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Depends. Hate can generate attraction in a sick way. Being fond of you means friend zone. No two ways about it. Typically, if she "hates" you, it might mean you don't give a f**k about her feelings or bend over so easily to her will.
 

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DarkDetective50 said:
Typically, if she "hates" you, it might mean you don't give a f**k about her feelings or bend over so easily to her will.
This is more what I meant by hate. Not actual hate.
 

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That's preposterous. Women do not hate Don Juans!:box: :box: :box: :box: :box:
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Dgwizdal

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I have a love/hate relationship with all the girls I'm involved with - it allows me to do and say whatever I want and they still want my c*ck. The greatest thing is being able to have them say "I hate you" and then they grab my face with glossed over eyes and shove their tongue down my throat. Being a slick smartass = Gina tingles.

As far as genuine hate without being repulsed by you or feel pitty for you - I would say that it's far better than friendzoned as far as attraction goes especially if you are indifferent to it. It is situational. Ideally - f*cking your girlfriends best friend after you just broke up because she realized you dont give a f*ck about her would be a positive hate. Chasing a girl until she can't stand you would be the opposite spectrum.
 

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When she doesn't find you attractive she will do anything to stay away from you.
Emotion is still emotion and has a certain amount of invest into that person.

Start by not taking BS from people and your perception of the world changes.

Patrice: "I want my woman to be only mad at me. No one else."
 

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Hate = Emotional investment = Chance of passion = Probability of fvcking

Fond of = Sweet but kinda meh = No fvcking


Simple as that.
 

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Its not about love or hate.. its about value. For women its always been about value. This is why women are materialistic and like status. They view the entire world in terms of value, image and status.. NOT quality. Remember that. Quality doesn't matter to women.. value does.

What is value to women? --> Popularity, price, image, demand, novelty.

Women don't chase what is best for THEM. They chase what is considered most valuable and high status within their social group or the social group they WANT to identify with. For instance a "thug" is high status to a woman who wants to look like a "bad girl" or "tough" even if she isn't.

Women also chase men who can improve their lives in some way. If a woman doesn't have money for instance.. a man can make up for that (food, protection, a bed to sleep in, etc.).

Women will compromise sexual attraction for stability as they age and lose their own sexual attractiveness. This is why they f*ck alphas and marry betas. But they all want to have a certain image and lifestyle. They will go with the man who can best provide this.

The part many men miss is how to leverage sex into it. If you can improve a woman's life or image without her having to sleep with you.... then she usually won't sleep with you. You become a landlord that doesn't charge rent. This leads to friend zoning because only a truly desperate or stupid landlord would not charge rent. If she can live in a penthouse for free and show off to her friends, plus she knows you'll never kick her out.. why start paying rent? :crazy:

Once you threaten to kick her out.. she might pay rent.. but if another sucker offers a similar deal.. why bother? Just move into his penthouse for FREE and pay for nice hotels every once in a while (sex with alphas).

This is why you should spin plates. It immediately gives a woman the opportunity to chase a man who "many women want". This gives the man instant status and value. Not quality however. But like I said women don't care about quality. Most men are not aware of this. They try to be "quality men" to attract women not realizing women are looking for VALUE/STATUS not quality.

This is why a man should live whatever life he wants to live while spinning plates. Be quality for yourself.. not to get women. Just spin plates and let the women around you create your "value".

Spin plates goddammit!
 

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PlayHer Man said:
The part many men miss is how to leverage sex into it. If you can improve a woman's life or image without her having to sleep with you.... then she usually won't sleep with you. You become a landlord that doesn't charge rent. This leads to friend zoning because only a truly desperate or stupid landlord would not charge rent. If she can live in a penthouse for free and show off to her friends, plus she knows you'll never kick her out.. why start paying rent? :crazy:
This is why I tell women who have BFs adios. It's just easier to kick them out right away than give the validation they want because usually they see there's no reason for them to give you sex to get what they want if their man is giving it to them regularly.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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