"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Is it always impossible for a man to "nice" his way to get a woman?
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"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
RichardTheFrog
Banned
Believe it or not, the average prostitute has a better personality than the average non-prostitute.
marmel75
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They get walked on, disrespected and cheated on. If you are OK with that then by all means...
RichardTheFrog
Banned
And the alternative of being mean quickly leads to jail time.
Feminist laws have males in a check mate.
1)needy
2)clingy
3)weak
and you can still
1)be assertive
2)not be afraid to stand up for yourelf
I'm genuinely a very nice person but I don't allow anybody to ever take advantage of me
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
Except the men who refuse to validate them outside sex. These men are being rewarded and the nicer men pay the price.
RichardTheFrog
Banned
All this stuff sounds good on paper, but when I go out it seems like the girls validate themselves.
I almost think I'd be better off just showering them with compliments and maybe bringing up my bionic d1ck haha.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
RichardTheFrog
Banned
I'm telling you... Nothing works.
Even if you pick on... nice or mean... It's not like you'll act that way 24\7. We're human beings and our emotions can fluctuate from one moment to the next.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
Listen to Alpha Male Strategies.
Basically our behavior and interaction frames us .
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
devilkingx2
Master Don Juan
These girls will then give you a very long list of guys who treated them like **** then suck you off for managing to go 5 minutes without calling her a *****
Think: chubby insecure slvts.
The nice thing about them is that the bar is incredibly low
In general though, nice or mean doesn't matter, be attractive and it doesn't matter if you're a piece of **** or a volunteer fireman who works at a soup kitchen on saturdays and goes to church on sundays
being an attractive piece of ch*t means you will generally pair up with a hot girl who is a c-u-n-t herself
attractive great person and you will generally pair up with a hot girl who is a great person
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
Nope. It's whatever your foolish enough to deal with.
logicallefty
Moderator
Nice guy: Buys her drinks all night; refuses to let her buy him one.
Considerate guy: Buys her one drink, lets her buy him one; thanks her kindly for the drink.
Nice guy: Doesn't call a woman out when she displeases him; allows her to do it over and over indefinately.
Considerate guy: Calls her out, but gives her another chance or two but not infinate; then dumps her if it becomes a habit.
Nice guy: Offers to fix her car on Saturday after a long work week; refuses any compensation in return.
Considerate guy: Offers to fix her car on Saturday after a long work week; suggests she make him dinner in return.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
You should charge her for car repairs . Unless you would let your homeboy get you a $5 meal to do these repairs.
If she's YOUR woman, free labor is cool if she's putting out and helping you out.
Like if you look so good to her that you make her nervous, and feel like a little school girl, then yea you could probably get away with it.
I had a chick once who was so nervous around me that she couldn't even hold eye contact with me. I could literally do no wrong in her eyes, I could be as mean or nice as I wanted.
But that's like 5% maybe 10% tops of women you come across. Most women you meet you're going to have to win over
you can be nice but still be strong and masculine
Watch any interview with Dwayne Johnson
I actually prefer indifference vs over caring... I think everyone wants to be with someone "nice"... there's just different levels to it
I meant to say indifference vs over caring, instead of nice vs mean
Nice and mean is too vague
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.