"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Is it AFC to want a LTR?

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I mean as opposed to "I'm just going to date, have fun, and whatever happens happens". And how much does a woman have to impress a super DJ before he wants a LTR with her? I mean as far as making the woman earn his love like I mentioned in another thread?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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It's not AFC to want an LTR. If it was it wouldn't talk about it in the bible. You should be aware of why you want one, if it's coming from an insecurity or some other thing a girl shouldn't be used to fill. And I don't think it's really waiting till a girl impresses you enough but more being patient until she proves herself, in essence not jumping at the first girls that likes you, having standards and knowing that there are other fish in the sea, and you are just the right bait. No settling for less than you want because you think that's all you deserve.
 

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It's AFC to accept any LTR.
 

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How old are you? That is very important. Its not AFC to want an LTR, its perfectly natural to want a women to love you. However as Fransico pointed out, its AFC to accept any LTR. If your going to enter an LTR, you need to enter it with a quality women.

However if your under 25, I would suggest you date and screw as many women while you can. Sow your oats so to speak. There is plenty of time to settle down when your older.

Oh and from the Bible Never ask to be exclusive

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Becoming exclusive with a woman means the both of you talk about not dating or seeing anyone else. The dating with others comes to an end.
Never ask a women to become exclusive. She must ask YOU. She must talk about it FIRST.
Why? If a woman hasn't asked you yet it means she is still open to seeing others. She still has DOUBTS about you. Highly interested women don't want you going out with other women.

A woman asking for exclusivity is like a 'marriage proposal'. She is cementing and laying the foundation for true intimacy.
She wants something that's lasting. It is the ULTIMATE test of interest, guys. She is 'proposing'.

If you ask first, you will never know her true interest level. Why didn't she bring it up? How come she is still letting you see others? Why isn't she CLOSING her options? Is she seeing someone else?

Think about it.

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I would love to have a LTR, with 2 to 3 girls at the same time. I haven't experienced women enough to settle with one girl. Even if I run into my perfect woman, I still wouldn't want to get into a LTR simply because I haven't dated, or simply had sex with enough girls yet for me to be satisfied.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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I think it's AFC to want a LTR, but it's not AFC to fall in love with someone (as long as they love you back). If you are looking for a LTR, you probably won't find one. Let things happen naturally and if it turns into something more, do what makes you happy.
 

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Maxtro said:
I would love to have a LTR, with 2 to 3 girls at the same time. I haven't experienced women enough to settle with one girl. Even if I run into my perfect woman, I still wouldn't want to get into a LTR simply because I haven't dated, or simply had sex with enough girls yet for me to be satisfied.

99% of people think like you well into their 30s and 40s and 2nd and 3rd marriages....LOL commitment is not natural to the human animal.
 

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Forget the idea of sex 60 times a week, romantic days out, and eternal happiness. Think of hard work to keep the family supported, more constriction, and not so perfect happiness.

Still interested?

This isn't no Disney film, this is real life.
exactly... hence why I will not get married ever.... I need sex...
 

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No, it's completely normal, but humans aren't just made to be monogamous. Loves comes, and it goes away just as fast. It's really not realistic to expect any LTR, but that's what everyone wants in the end.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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DonGorgon said:
commitment is not natural to the human animal.
can anyone say "oxymoron"? Humans are not animals
- think like a monkey then you will act like a monkey!!


Stéphane said:
No, it's completely normal, but humans aren't just made to be monogamous. Loves comes, and it goes away just as fast. It's really not realistic to expect any LTR, but that's what everyone wants in the end.
Then it is not love:rolleyes: If everyone wants a LTR then there must be something to this!! LTR = marriage!! Long-term means long term!
 
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potato said:
What are humans if we are not animals?
Humans! Humans are not defined by another form - that doesn't make sense!! Why does the word "human" exist, if we are animals???
 

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Well, now I'm confused. I always thought AFC stood for "Average frustrated chump". I don't see anything "frustrating" or "chump-ish" about having a girl really into you, and you back, and deciding to have a relationship.
 

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Last Man Standing said:
Humans! Humans are not defined by another form - that doesn't make sense!! Why does the word "human" exist, if we are animals???
why does the word dog exist if they are animals?

I know I'm an animal for sure.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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wolf116 said:
why does the word dog exist if they are animals?

I know I'm an animal for sure.
When you think of a dog do you think of a human being? :rolleyes:
 

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Last Man Standing said:
When you think of a dog do you think of a human being? :rolleyes:
Yes! all animals. I have never seen any evidence that separates from the animal kingdom.
 
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wolf116 said:
Yes! all animals. I have never seen any evidence that separates from the animal kingdom.
"Animal kingdom?" You are using the language of National Geographic! Our mind and spirit separates us? Can a monkey type on the internet and give profound human insight? Do they navigate space? Manipulate DNA?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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