"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Is it AFC to want a LTR?

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I mean as opposed to "I'm just going to date, have fun, and whatever happens happens". And how much does a woman have to impress a super DJ before he wants a LTR with her? I mean as far as making the woman earn his love like I mentioned in another thread?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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It's not AFC to want an LTR. If it was it wouldn't talk about it in the bible. You should be aware of why you want one, if it's coming from an insecurity or some other thing a girl shouldn't be used to fill. And I don't think it's really waiting till a girl impresses you enough but more being patient until she proves herself, in essence not jumping at the first girls that likes you, having standards and knowing that there are other fish in the sea, and you are just the right bait. No settling for less than you want because you think that's all you deserve.
 

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It's AFC to accept any LTR.
 

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How old are you? That is very important. Its not AFC to want an LTR, its perfectly natural to want a women to love you. However as Fransico pointed out, its AFC to accept any LTR. If your going to enter an LTR, you need to enter it with a quality women.

However if your under 25, I would suggest you date and screw as many women while you can. Sow your oats so to speak. There is plenty of time to settle down when your older.

Oh and from the Bible Never ask to be exclusive

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Becoming exclusive with a woman means the both of you talk about not dating or seeing anyone else. The dating with others comes to an end.
Never ask a women to become exclusive. She must ask YOU. She must talk about it FIRST.
Why? If a woman hasn't asked you yet it means she is still open to seeing others. She still has DOUBTS about you. Highly interested women don't want you going out with other women.

A woman asking for exclusivity is like a 'marriage proposal'. She is cementing and laying the foundation for true intimacy.
She wants something that's lasting. It is the ULTIMATE test of interest, guys. She is 'proposing'.

If you ask first, you will never know her true interest level. Why didn't she bring it up? How come she is still letting you see others? Why isn't she CLOSING her options? Is she seeing someone else?

Think about it.

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I would love to have a LTR, with 2 to 3 girls at the same time. I haven't experienced women enough to settle with one girl. Even if I run into my perfect woman, I still wouldn't want to get into a LTR simply because I haven't dated, or simply had sex with enough girls yet for me to be satisfied.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I think it's AFC to want a LTR, but it's not AFC to fall in love with someone (as long as they love you back). If you are looking for a LTR, you probably won't find one. Let things happen naturally and if it turns into something more, do what makes you happy.
 

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Maxtro said:
I would love to have a LTR, with 2 to 3 girls at the same time. I haven't experienced women enough to settle with one girl. Even if I run into my perfect woman, I still wouldn't want to get into a LTR simply because I haven't dated, or simply had sex with enough girls yet for me to be satisfied.

99% of people think like you well into their 30s and 40s and 2nd and 3rd marriages....LOL commitment is not natural to the human animal.
 

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Forget the idea of sex 60 times a week, romantic days out, and eternal happiness. Think of hard work to keep the family supported, more constriction, and not so perfect happiness.

Still interested?

This isn't no Disney film, this is real life.
exactly... hence why I will not get married ever.... I need sex...
 

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No, it's completely normal, but humans aren't just made to be monogamous. Loves comes, and it goes away just as fast. It's really not realistic to expect any LTR, but that's what everyone wants in the end.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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DonGorgon said:
commitment is not natural to the human animal.
can anyone say "oxymoron"? Humans are not animals
- think like a monkey then you will act like a monkey!!


Stéphane said:
No, it's completely normal, but humans aren't just made to be monogamous. Loves comes, and it goes away just as fast. It's really not realistic to expect any LTR, but that's what everyone wants in the end.
Then it is not love:rolleyes: If everyone wants a LTR then there must be something to this!! LTR = marriage!! Long-term means long term!
 
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What are humans if we are not animals?
Humans! Humans are not defined by another form - that doesn't make sense!! Why does the word "human" exist, if we are animals???
 

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Well, now I'm confused. I always thought AFC stood for "Average frustrated chump". I don't see anything "frustrating" or "chump-ish" about having a girl really into you, and you back, and deciding to have a relationship.
 

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Humans! Humans are not defined by another form - that doesn't make sense!! Why does the word "human" exist, if we are animals???
why does the word dog exist if they are animals?

I know I'm an animal for sure.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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wolf116 said:
why does the word dog exist if they are animals?

I know I'm an animal for sure.
When you think of a dog do you think of a human being? :rolleyes:
 

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Last Man Standing said:
When you think of a dog do you think of a human being? :rolleyes:
Yes! all animals. I have never seen any evidence that separates from the animal kingdom.
 
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wolf116 said:
Yes! all animals. I have never seen any evidence that separates from the animal kingdom.
"Animal kingdom?" You are using the language of National Geographic! Our mind and spirit separates us? Can a monkey type on the internet and give profound human insight? Do they navigate space? Manipulate DNA?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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