"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Is it absolutely over with this one?

Mr. IC

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I've made three dumb mistakes since our first date, which was two weeks ago.

First, I called her rather late to go to a concert event thing- she was already going with her girls. She said she'd find me there, she didn't though.

Drunk dialed her later that night and looked pretty dumb....

Lastly, I made a fool of myself the other night when I called to ask her out for this weekend. She had friends in town that she's going downtown with, apparently for both nights.

She did say, however, that "we could meet up" if we're both downtown. I stupidly said "okay, i'll call you tomorrow, alright?"


I guess what i'm wondering is, she wouldn't be saying things like this if she wasn't at least somewhat interested, right? Or maybe she's just testing how needy I really am for her own amusement.

So far I've asked her to hang out at terrible times, and perhaps if I try one more time and be a little smarter about it, it could work. But that would be going against the "2 strikes" rule that people advocate around here, right?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Joe Stud

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sit back for a week. be less eager (needy). then if you really want to take another shot, go. if she says shes busy but will "meet up with you".. tell her to feel free to call you. put it in her court. dont stop sarging, she isnt moving mountains to date you as of now
 

Allurre

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Cut off all communications for now and let the desperation in you for hooking up with her wear down.

That's your best move; turn elsewhere now.

Don't ever drunk dial women for future reference.
 

Mr. IC

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What exactly does sarging mean?

And is it worth mentioning that she stayed the night in my room after the first night? For better or for worse, that probably means something....
 
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