Is Daygame BS?

[momentomori]

I've been doing daygame for a little while now. I've read all of the theory (krauser, torero, Tusk, etc.) and for the most part have implemented it. There may be some blind spots that I am unaware of, but I don't think there's too much a daygame teacher can teach me to tangibly improve upon my approaches. Aside from going on a cycle of roids and pimping my Instagram, I don't think there's much that can improve my odds. But, I'm open to being proven wrong about this.

I've done about 200-300 approaches now and have only gotten about 2 dates from daygame. I could have maybe gotten more if I didn't mess things up on text. This is pretty disheartening for me right now, because I felt this was my best option to meet girls that are least on my looks level (7.5-8). OLD will match me with girls below my looks level and nightgame isn't an option for me.

The constant rejection is just really starting to weigh me down. I am just in disbelief in the amount of girls out there that are in some type of relationship. It also boggles my mind how some women can give two ****s about the fact that I'm putting my balls on the line to approach them.

Not sure if I'll get any help from this forum tbh. Seems like a lot of keyboard jockeys on here but I'm curious to see if there are any actual action takers out there who could give someone like me advice.

I'm also in LA, a competitive city and probably one of the worst major cities for daygame. Just curious what your thoughts are.

 

[HaleyBaron]

Just means you arent doing as well as you think you are. When I went to LA, I didn't get any girls cause I wasnt trying to, but I talked with them and opened them up hard. The only reason I didn't pursue cause I was with another girl that was hosting me.

 

[Georgepithyou]

I've done about 200-300 approaches now and have only gotten about 2 dates from daygame

That's very normal when you start out, daygame is all about luck. After 5 approachs i found a great girl that i ended up dating, for some it might take 500.

It's all about consistency,Volume and calibration.

 

[momentomori]

That's very normal when you start out, daygame is all about luck. After 5 approachs i found a great girl that i ended up dating, for some it might take 500.

It's all about consistency,Volume and calibration.

Hah yeah. Similar with me. On my second approach ever I got a date with a 7.5. I thought I would be banging 8's and 9's in no time. Boy was I wrong, haha. Shoulda just started dating that girl tbh. I've heard numbers bandied about by daygame experts that 1 in 50 should end up as a lay, but I do not know a single person IRL who are pulling those numbers. Probably just marketing hyperbole to give guys false pretenses of what's possible.

 

[Josh Davidson]

I got 1 phone number out of 100 approaches when I did day game approaches regularly a few years ago.

 

[SargeMaximus]

I've done about 200-300 approaches now and have only gotten about 2 dates from daygame. I could have maybe gotten more if I didn't mess things up on text. This is pretty disheartening for me right now, because I felt this was my best option to meet girls that are least on my looks level (7.5-8). OLD will match me with girls below my looks level and nightgame isn't an option for me.

The constant rejection is just really starting to weigh me down. I am just in disbelief in the amount of girls out there that are in some type of relationship. It also boggles my mind how some women can give two ****s about the fact that I'm putting my balls on the line to approach them.

This is exactly my experience and my sentiment. Apparently having balls doesn’t mean sh!t.

 

[Georgepithyou]

Hah yeah. Similar with me. On my second approach ever I got a date with a 7.5. I thought I would be banging 8's and 9's in no time. Boy was I wrong, haha. Shoulda just started dating that girl tbh. I've heard numbers bandied about by daygame experts that 1 in 50 should end up as a lay, but I do not know a single person IRL who are pulling those numbers. Probably just marketing hyperbole to give guys false pretenses of what's possible.

Even the best and most experienced daygamers have a batting average of 20%. It's a numbers game just like applying for jobs. If you want better odds you need a good social circle.

Your only other alternatives are nightgame and OLD.

 

[Georgepithyou]

OLD I would imagine is horrific for younger guys but it was absolutely brilliant for me in my 30s.

before I met my wife I must have had 8 lays in a year, 2 of them were a couple of month things.

add to this I was 20lbs overweight and didn’t hide it on pics.

I just think the dating market is easier in your 30s in general. Women truly love a man in their 30s, I think it’s our golden age.

I think in your 20s you have to be Chad or wealthy or nothing.

It's a number of factors, I notice guys who praise OLD tend to live in NYC. Changing my location on Hinge to NYC got me much better results then here in Sydney.

Idk what is about here but OLD is really hard and the best I've gotten were 5s and 6s. With Daygame i was able to get two 8/10s.

 

[bat soup]

I've been doing daygame for a little while now. I've read all of the theory (krauser, torero, Tusk, etc.) and for the most part have implemented it. There may be some blind spots that I am unaware of, but I don't think there's too much a daygame teacher can teach me to tangibly improve upon my approaches. Aside from going on a cycle of roids and pimping my Instagram, I don't think there's much that can improve my odds. But, I'm open to being proven wrong about this.

I've done about 200-300 approaches now and have only gotten about 2 dates from daygame. I could have maybe gotten more if I didn't mess things up on text. This is pretty disheartening for me right now, because I felt this was my best option to meet girls that are least on my looks level (7.5-8). OLD will match me with girls below my looks level and nightgame isn't an option for me.

The constant rejection is just really starting to weigh me down. I am just in disbelief in the amount of girls out there that are in some type of relationship. It also boggles my mind how some women can give two ****s about the fact that I'm putting my balls on the line to approach them.

Not sure if I'll get any help from this forum tbh. Seems like a lot of keyboard jockeys on here but I'm curious to see if there are any actual action takers out there who could give someone like me advice.

I'm also in LA, a competitive city and probably one of the worst major cities for daygame. Just curious what your thoughts are.

Maybe instead of doing so many approaches you could just sit on Venice Beach with a sign that says "Free DIKKKK".

 

[Bingo-Player]

This is pretty disheartening for me right now, because I felt this was my best option to meet girls that are least on my looks level (7.5-8). OLD will match me with girls below my looks level and nightgame isn't an option for me.

Your best option to meet girls on your level is from social circles not cold approach

I never believed the narrative that cold approach is simply a "numbers game" ..... your going to waste A LOT of time trying to do it that way

Instead as others have mentioned you let the girl indicate an interest ......( eye contact , smile , blush ) in the cold light of day it's not going to happen often because shock horror women have so many options

but at least your not wasting time approaching and texting girls that were never interested to begin with

 

[corrector]

I am at 41 approaches with 1 date. Have you tried different ways of approaching?

You are STILL at 41 approaches after a week?

 

[corrector]

OLD I would imagine is horrific for younger guys but it was absolutely brilliant for me in my 30s.

before I met my wife I must have had 8 lays in a year, 2 of them were a couple of month things.

add to this I was 20lbs overweight and didn’t hide it on pics.

I just think the dating market is easier in your 30s in general. Women truly love a man in their 30s, I think it’s our golden age.

I think in your 20s you have to be Chad or wealthy or nothing.

I did not have such results in my 30s or 40s. You must be a chadlite or chad if you were 20lbs overweight/obese and had good results.

 

[corrector]

Try doing a looks evaluation on photo rating site. If you are below a 5 then that could be the reason.

 

[Bokanovsky]

I've been doing daygame for a little while now. I've read all of the theory (krauser, torero, Tusk, etc.) and for the most part have implemented it. There may be some blind spots that I am unaware of, but I don't think there's too much a daygame teacher can teach me to tangibly improve upon my approaches. Aside from going on a cycle of roids and pimping my Instagram, I don't think there's much that can improve my odds. But, I'm open to being proven wrong about this.

I've done about 200-300 approaches now and have only gotten about 2 dates from daygame. I could have maybe gotten more if I didn't mess things up on text. This is pretty disheartening for me right now, because I felt this was my best option to meet girls that are least on my looks level (7.5-8). OLD will match me with girls below my looks level and nightgame isn't an option for me.

The constant rejection is just really starting to weigh me down. I am just in disbelief in the amount of girls out there that are in some type of relationship. It also boggles my mind how some women can give two ****s about the fact that I'm putting my balls on the line to approach them.

Not sure if I'll get any help from this forum tbh. Seems like a lot of keyboard jockeys on here but I'm curious to see if there are any actual action takers out there who could give someone like me advice.

I'm also in LA, a competitive city and probably one of the worst major cities for daygame. Just curious what your thoughts are.

Daytime cold approaches are the dating equivalent of spam emails and telemarketing. How often have you bought something after being contacted in such a manner?

 

[Xenom0rph]

If you're unattractive, yes.

If you're good-looking, it can open doors to new relationships.

 

[PRW63]

Is Daygame BS?

Yes it is BS because the whole concept is BS. Guys can't figure out that REAL "game" is just the way you live your life and interact with people 24hrs a day everyday of your life. They somehow think "game" is "pickup" and that "pickup" is "game",...and you somehow "turn it on" when you need it. Pickup is just coercion and manipulation. Game is social skills and social acuity, social calibration. You say you did 200-300 approaches and only got 2 dates,....that means you have big problems with your social skills and social calibration. I haven't done 200 approaches in my entire life and I'm nearly ready to retire,...yet I don't have much trouble getting a date when I decide I want one. The biggest hurdle I have is finding a woman that I actually want to have a date with because I "know too much" about them, I have the skills to see through them to what is really going on with them,...and don't want them. I see how broken they are.

 

[corrector]

This is pretty disheartening for me right now, because I felt this was my best option to meet girls that are least on my looks level (7.5-8).

How do you objectively figure your looks level is 7.5-8? 2 dates out of 300 approaches sounds more like sub-5 looks. If you are not honest about these things then its hard for people to diagnose your situation.

 

[corrector]

You keep mentioning a photo evaluation site.

Just stop.

You are going to be placed on ignore again. I put you on unignore and you've shown you are incapable of any type of adult discourse.

 

[momentomori]

OLD I would imagine is horrific for younger guys but it was absolutely brilliant for me in my 30s.

before I met my wife I must have had 8 lays in a year, 2 of them were a couple of month things.

add to this I was 20lbs overweight and didn’t hide it on pics.

I just think the dating market is easier in your 30s in general. Women truly love a man in their 30s, I think it’s our golden age.

I think in your 20s you have to be Chad or wealthy or nothing.

Not true. I'm in my 30's and rate a 9.5 on photofeeler with touchups. I get matched with an abundance of 4's and 5's, and occasionally 6's. OLD gets harder as you get older because the apps just match you with girls your age. If you're trying to pull girls in their 20's its an uphill battle the older you get.

You have to be a 9.9-10 to truly succeed on OLD. Even then you'll be dipping well below your looks level.

 

[bat soup]

How so? Talking to women should be daily thing. Read signals of interest.

"Hi how's it going" is all it takes. Can go anywhere from there.
Not everytime you talk to a girl in the daytime is going to be a close. Not every girl will give you good signals.

To say it doesnt work is an understatement. There is an audio book called "Undercover sex signals" check it out.
Women are covert at just about everything

Cold approaching is like cold calling. You can't expect a high success rate.

Maybe if you filter better and only approach certain types of girls or choose a better location the rates would be higher.