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is alcohol an essential for the first date ?

Bingo-Player

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so I've got a date with a potential new plate this week a cute HB 7 from what i can tell from pictures although she looks like she could have potential for a higher rating .....time will tell

I've not been able to do the whole "first date" thing much over this last year as
all my plates have been social circle plates and i knew them pretty well before dating anyway

this chick has popped up out of nowhere so I'm a little undecided as to what to do for the first date

its a toss between a civilised coffee or a full blown session on the booze

i know which ones more likely to get me sex at the end, but I've been doing so fvcking well "drying out" from alcohol over the last 6 weeks I'm not sure i want to break from my sobriety :down:

my question is does anyone have any experiences of escalating a non alcohol fuelled first date into sex or into a nice amount of physical contact ? :rolleyes:
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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If you're using alcohol as a crutch to get laid, that's about as beta as it gets.

By your logic, you'll be justifying roofies.

I've gotten laid plenty without any alcohol involved and I've been doing it for decades.

If you want an excuse to drink, find a better one.
 

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eh, I disagree. All my first dates involve alcohol. Lets her know what I'm after and lets me know if she's willing to provide. If she insists on coffee or some sh*t, I next her. Drunken sex is the best (and, indeed, the only good) ending to a first date, IMHO.
 

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I disagree.

Why make it harder for yourself?

Even if you're/she's not drunk, the fact you've been drinking can help her justify sleeping with you if she's that kind of girl. Plus, I have more fun when I'm drunk no matter what I'm doing, it's not a case of it being a 'crutch' it's a case of having fun.
 

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Are you saying your game is not good enough to pick up a woman who is not drunk?

Comatozed said:
Why make it harder for yourself?
Because you want to improve your game. Also it doesn't seem like OP actually wants to drink.
 

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Alcohol is OK on first dates in moderation but in your case if you are trying to stay sober I would stick with that. Take her to a bar and let her drink and just order a Coke. If she asks why you aren't drinking just say "I need to stay sober in case you get all crazy and attack me".
 

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Alcohol is good on first date !
I usually just drink 1-2 drinks and if it goes really well I had an extra one.
To me alchohol is just a short circuit to quicker sex !
You probably can do well without it but girl are often shy even if they like you a lot and alcohol loosen them up.

That said . Location is the key . Please find a nice place where you can sit side by side and not some awkward half packed location .
 

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Do coffee...it's cheaper. Save the alcohol for the next few dates when you know she's on her way to Fuxville.
 

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Tictac said:
If you're using alcohol as a crutch to get laid, that's about as beta as it gets.

By your logic, you'll be justifying roofies.

I've gotten laid plenty without any alcohol involved and I've been doing it for decades.

If you want an excuse to drink, find a better one.
LMAO woah now cowboy where did i say I'm using alcohol as a crutch to get laid :crazy:

all i asked was does anyone have any experiences in getting physical with a chick ON THE FIRST DATE without it

unfortunatley in modern society people simply feel more comfortable about casual sex when alcohol is involved this is no secret even more so in a high pressured social set like a first date

i actually like lefty's idea of letting her drink and attempting to keep sober :up:
 

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Yes you can get a kiss after a coffee date if all goes well, it's fairly straight forward and I've done it on occasion.

That said a date at a bar with alcohol is usually the ideal for a first date. The girl has an excuse to "let her hair down" and you can get much closer to her, and possibly bang her. For online dates this is usually the way to go.

If you are looking for an LTR they are both fine, for a fvck buddy going for a coffee gives off the wrong vibe. That's my opinion.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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I only had one coffee first date. got her back to mine but lmr hit pretty hard. It was strange scenario as it was like 2pm on a week day and my flatmates were in so she probably didn't wanna **** cos of a few reasons.

I reckon if it's a friday night and she's drunk we ****.
 

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alcohol is the number #1 antidote for last minute resistance/anti-slut defense.

Don't make it harder on yourself, and forget the beta/alpha nonsense. What matters is getting laid if that is your goal.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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