"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Is 5'8 considered short for a male?

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warrior1

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Most woman seem to think any guy under 5'10 these days are short.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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5'8 is that magic number just between short and average... **** it I say, I'm 5'7 but as long as you've got the inner game it shouldn't hold you back.. except for the few women who only, non exception, go after tall guys but forget about them. The biggest natural/DJ I've ever met was only 5'5, (I met him at a nationwide summer program last year.. he got laid on the second day there.. holy ****).
 

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I saw an ugly guy who was 5.5, skinny as hell, with a HB9. Didn't seem to bother him, that he was uglyl and short.
 

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Hope not, since I'm 5'7.
 

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Deadly_Assassin said:
I saw an ugly guy who was 5.5, skinny as hell, with a HB9. Didn't seem to bother him, that he was uglyl and short.
Thats the key thing there that everybody who has height, looks, money etc issues don't see.

If you have an issue with your height then you don't like yourself and if you don't like yourself then how can anybody else like you.

YOU HAVE TO LIKE YOURSELF FIRST!!!! The is rule no1 in getting people to like you.

The small skinny ugly guy and any men who can get hot looking girls all have 1 thing in common... they like themselves!!
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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i would say that yeah, anything under 5'10'' is short

i cannot belive you americans still use the imperial system

why do you have to decode 2 numbers, when one will do

168cm
 

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warrior1 said:
Most woman seem to think any guy under 5'10 these days are short.
You can always respond to that with, "Good, I don't date any woman who weights more than ________.", and pick a number that is lower than her weight. :D

Women are never satisfied with a man's height, yet they aren't satisfied with their own weight either. Sarge on!
 

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5"8 in Asia is considered average, but in the West, it might be a bit short.
Most of the white and black guys I've seen all my life so far are really giants, even the girls, and I'm not kidding. I'm talking about guys going as tall as 6"2 and above, and the girls are like 5"7 - 6".
 

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I'm 5'6 and it doesn't bother me anymore.
I've always dated girls who were taller than me.
When a girl tell me I'm too short, I say something like :

"You know when we will be making love and having pleasure, my height will doesn't matter anymore ;) :D "

Gangster Of Love said:
You can always respond to that with, "Good, I don't date any woman who weights more than ________.", and pick a number that is lower than her weight.
Ahahahaha really good one ! :up:
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I'm 5'8" and obsessed with height. Although most people that read my posts probably know that. I'm quite depressed because of it too.

Do women overlook height? probably, depending on the guy of course. Also most women are an inch or so shorter than me, so perhaps there are women out there who don't mind dating a guy who is their same height.
 

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lordson said:
i would say that yeah, anything under 5'10'' is short

I cannot believe you Americans still use the imperial system

why do you have to decode 2 numbers when one will do?

168cm
Lol, nice one.
 

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height isnt that important, get over it and start thinking about more important things. girls wont mind, unless ur a total extreme, like less than 5'4
 

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Ask yourself this question: can you improve upon this aspect of who you are?

If you can't (height, pen1s size, etc), there's nothing to worry about because there's nothing to do about it.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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People get caught up in it because its an easy excuse for being bad with women. They call themselves "short" and then bury their head in the sand because its easier than facing your problems and overcoming them. Undescended testicles might be the cause of this irrational woman-like behavior. It's like pulling a blanket over your head cause you're afraid of the dark.

The average male American mens height is 177 cm, which is 69.7 inches, which is approximately 5 foot - 10 inches tall. (for white males*).
I'm 5'9, most of my boys are 6'1-6'3, I even have a kid who's 6'8 in my crew. Guess who gets the most IOIs?

Believe it or not, the average guy grows in height until he's around 23 years old. You don't just stop growing right after puberty.
 

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YOU HAVE TO LIKE YOURSELF FIRST!!!! The is rule no1 in getting people to like you.
Bulls eye!
 

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haha that youtube video was pretty funny, and i think shortness doesn't really matter unless you let it get to you.

or if you're danny devito.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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