"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Is 5'8 considered short for a male?

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Most woman seem to think any guy under 5'10 these days are short.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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5'8 is that magic number just between short and average... **** it I say, I'm 5'7 but as long as you've got the inner game it shouldn't hold you back.. except for the few women who only, non exception, go after tall guys but forget about them. The biggest natural/DJ I've ever met was only 5'5, (I met him at a nationwide summer program last year.. he got laid on the second day there.. holy ****).
 

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I saw an ugly guy who was 5.5, skinny as hell, with a HB9. Didn't seem to bother him, that he was uglyl and short.
 

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Hope not, since I'm 5'7.
 

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Deadly_Assassin said:
I saw an ugly guy who was 5.5, skinny as hell, with a HB9. Didn't seem to bother him, that he was uglyl and short.
Thats the key thing there that everybody who has height, looks, money etc issues don't see.

If you have an issue with your height then you don't like yourself and if you don't like yourself then how can anybody else like you.

YOU HAVE TO LIKE YOURSELF FIRST!!!! The is rule no1 in getting people to like you.

The small skinny ugly guy and any men who can get hot looking girls all have 1 thing in common... they like themselves!!
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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i would say that yeah, anything under 5'10'' is short

i cannot belive you americans still use the imperial system

why do you have to decode 2 numbers, when one will do

168cm
 

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warrior1 said:
Most woman seem to think any guy under 5'10 these days are short.
You can always respond to that with, "Good, I don't date any woman who weights more than ________.", and pick a number that is lower than her weight. :D

Women are never satisfied with a man's height, yet they aren't satisfied with their own weight either. Sarge on!
 

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5"8 in Asia is considered average, but in the West, it might be a bit short.
Most of the white and black guys I've seen all my life so far are really giants, even the girls, and I'm not kidding. I'm talking about guys going as tall as 6"2 and above, and the girls are like 5"7 - 6".
 

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I'm 5'6 and it doesn't bother me anymore.
I've always dated girls who were taller than me.
When a girl tell me I'm too short, I say something like :

"You know when we will be making love and having pleasure, my height will doesn't matter anymore ;) :D "

Gangster Of Love said:
You can always respond to that with, "Good, I don't date any woman who weights more than ________.", and pick a number that is lower than her weight.
Ahahahaha really good one ! :up:
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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I'm 5'8" and obsessed with height. Although most people that read my posts probably know that. I'm quite depressed because of it too.

Do women overlook height? probably, depending on the guy of course. Also most women are an inch or so shorter than me, so perhaps there are women out there who don't mind dating a guy who is their same height.
 

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lordson said:
i would say that yeah, anything under 5'10'' is short

I cannot believe you Americans still use the imperial system

why do you have to decode 2 numbers when one will do?

168cm
Lol, nice one.
 

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height isnt that important, get over it and start thinking about more important things. girls wont mind, unless ur a total extreme, like less than 5'4
 

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Ask yourself this question: can you improve upon this aspect of who you are?

If you can't (height, pen1s size, etc), there's nothing to worry about because there's nothing to do about it.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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People get caught up in it because its an easy excuse for being bad with women. They call themselves "short" and then bury their head in the sand because its easier than facing your problems and overcoming them. Undescended testicles might be the cause of this irrational woman-like behavior. It's like pulling a blanket over your head cause you're afraid of the dark.

The average male American mens height is 177 cm, which is 69.7 inches, which is approximately 5 foot - 10 inches tall. (for white males*).
I'm 5'9, most of my boys are 6'1-6'3, I even have a kid who's 6'8 in my crew. Guess who gets the most IOIs?

Believe it or not, the average guy grows in height until he's around 23 years old. You don't just stop growing right after puberty.
 

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YOU HAVE TO LIKE YOURSELF FIRST!!!! The is rule no1 in getting people to like you.
Bulls eye!
 

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haha that youtube video was pretty funny, and i think shortness doesn't really matter unless you let it get to you.

or if you're danny devito.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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