"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Invited to a FWB's birthday- advice appreciated

OnTheWayUp

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Hey all,

I was planning on hooking up with my semi-regular FWB this evening, and sent her a text suggesting we meet at mine. It's her 21st birthday today and I know she's not planning on celebrating in a big way for a while, so tbh I thought it would be a good opportunity to take her v-card. She's counter-offered by inviting me to a casual birthday thing in her flat instead. I really don't know whether I should accept or not.

For going:

-I like this girl, it would be fun and a good way to socialise and meet new people.
-Comes across as a bit of a d1ck move to imply I'm free this evening and then not show up.
-The girl likes me and would be pretty pissed if I don't show up. I'm sure she expects me to come.
-If I can isolate my girl at the end, I have a very high chance of taking her v-card as it's her 21st birthday.

Against going:

-I want to get laid, not make polite conversation with randomers for a couple of hours.
-She's just sent me an invite to the event for her bday on FB- I literally know no-one else in her social circle apart from her. It's social suicide going to a house party where you don't know anyone.
-I could just be like "I fancied doing something a bit more chilled this evening, see you round." This gets round the awkwardness of suggesting we meet and then not showing up at her party.
-I am not pursuing a relationship with this girl. I want to be the guy she gets physical with rather than a friend she hangs out with and introduces to other friends.
-I will not be able to hit on any of her friends or get their numbers for obvious reasons.
-This feels like an audition for her friends.
-Her flat might be quite messy at the end of the night, she will probably have to tidy up. This is not conducive to sexytimes.
-I have other options I can invite out for a drink if need be.


Need to make a decision in the next 4 hours, all advice appreciated.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I always assumed FWB meant you already boned her. I don't get it.
 

OnTheWayUp

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st_99 said:
I always assumed FWB meant you already boned her. I don't get it.
It's the best word I can think of to describe her. We've done everything else besides penetrative sex, and have been seeing each other for 2 months with a 1 month break for uni holidays in between.

Call her a plate if you want, it's besides the point. Should I go?
 

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OnTheWayUp said:
It's the best word I can think of to describe her. We've done everything else besides penetrative sex, and have been seeing each other for 2 months with a 1 month break for uni holidays in between.

Call her a plate if you want, it's besides the point. Should I go?
Go, but get there really late.
 

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OnTheWayUp said:
It's social suicide going to a house party where you don't know anyone.
You know the host and that's all that counts. It's a good opportunity to meet new people and since you do know someone there you're a bit less of a stranger.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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OnTheWayUp

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Ok, the general consensus seems to be that I should go, and my player friend at uni agrees, so I'll go.

Do I aim to wait until everyone else has gone and then do her, or leave early and tell her to come over when the party's over? Bear in mind that the party won't be able to go on past midnight because we live in uni accomodation. Also bear in mind that she lives 5 mins away from me.
 

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This is a tough one. I've been thinking about this for a bit.

I think it would be a d@ck move to blow her off on her birthday. Tell her you'll be there but it will probably be a little later.

Do you know roughly how late the party will last?


Arrive late and stay "to help clean up."

While clean up isn't sexy, you CAN score that way. One of my female coworkers has lots of parties. This guy in the office always "stayed to help clean up" and he kept his car hidden in her garage rather than driveway. I finally figured out that they've been hooking up for a year.

The reason I suggest arriving late is so she will miss you and you won't be hanging on her all night. There is always a tradeoff though. Some other sausage vulture will probably be trying to game her when you arrive. But if you are already in with this bird, you should be able to politely blow him out and still be a gentleman.
 

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Alternatively, and maybe better yet, arrive early but spend most of the night talking to dudes. You keep them occupied and look social and non-needy to the girls. Stay late and clean up. My player coworker does this plan exactly.
 

OnTheWayUp

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Mike32ct said:
This is a tough one. I've been thinking about this for a bit.

I think it would be a d@ck move to blow her off on her birthday. Tell her you'll be there but it will probably be a little later.

Do you know roughly how late the party will last?


Arrive late and stay "to help clean up."

While clean up isn't sexy, you CAN score that way. One of my female coworkers has lots of parties. This guy in the office always "stayed to help clean up" and he kept his car hidden in her garage rather than driveway. I finally figured out that they've been hooking up for a year.

The reason I suggest arriving late is so she will miss you and you won't be hanging on her all night. There is always a tradeoff though. Some other sausage vulture will probably be trying to game her when you arrive. But if you are already in with this bird, you should be able to politely blow him out and still be a gentleman.
This sounds like a solid plan. It strikes the balance between being nice and getting what I want very well. I'm confident that I can outgame any competition, and if things go badly I'm going to a great party tomorrow where there will be plenty of new girls.

The uni accomodation officers normally shut down loud parties some time between 11-12, unless you rent private housing (which is much more expensive). The party officially starts at 8:30, which means I reckon I'll aim to get there between 9:30 and 10.
 

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Update:

I went at about 9:30 and got subtley told I should have arrived earlier by my hostess- perfect. By about 00:30 everyone had gone, but I stuck around to "help clear up." I then took my sleepy, tipsy girl to bed, where we did... everything that we usually do.

I wimped out, I'm so annoyed at myself. I don't know what came over me, but I said that she could decide when she wants to have sex, as it's her first time. She said she wanted it to be with me, but that I was too tired (true, I was exhausted yesterday). The evening was fun, but I think I was too nice to her.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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You're trying to do FWB with a virgin.. you're in for a ruuuude awakening
 
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