"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Interesting perspective heard from a girl

skinnydart

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So this HB and another guy she knew as a friend came in my office, and were talking. What she said was interesting but contradicted some of the prevalent concepts given on this forum.

He: Yeah, I’m actually flying home for fall break with someone from my class.
She: Is it a girl?
He: Yeah, I kinda like her, but she already has a boyfriend
She: So? Ask her out!
He: No! I’m not going to do that. I mean I know the guy she’s going out with, he would hate that.
She: Why do guys think that just because a girl has a boyfriend, they don’t want to be asked out anymore? Girls love it when they are fought for. Girls want to be wanted.
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She: Most girls are still looking for a guy that closer fits their dream guy. Don’t worry if we’re going out with someone at the time.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Fatality

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Maybe this girl is just a cheating slut or maybe an attention *****. I do think that atleast 75% of girls between the age of 18-25 would cheat.
 
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This girl who is responding is obviously an American hor or has the thinking of one!!
 

sapphire

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It just fits in with the idea that many women are constantly looking for the better and bigger deal (BBD). Until then she will hang with any schmuck who happens to be around. Does not neccesarily make her a ho.
 

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Sapphire that is a good point

I like ur thoughts

gotta go, i'll add something soon

Laters
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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If it was me, I wouldn't listen to this girl. She is in the same line where all the girls tell you how girls love to get flowers and encourage you to be AFC.

Besides, if she cheats her bf with this guy, she is gonna do the same to him when some other guy asks her out.
 

becker

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Good point by Chazz, I'll have to somewhat agree on that, even though I don't like generalizing most of the time.

I don't see any harm in asking a girl out who is with a BF, just to see what she says. You can always just not go out with her. It's maybe a good test to see if she's interested in you that much, as well as a field test for some of this crud. I know there are some girls who are pretty darn loyal, but can't resist the attention. There are also girls who are pretty steadfast and won't want to do anything with you.

Either way, it could be that she's attracted to you but faithful, attracted to you and not faithful, or not attracted to you.
 
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