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Informing a woman of dealbreaker fetish

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There was a recent-ish thread on here about when to reveal fetishes that aren't dealbreakers.

I'm in the reverse position. My fetish is a dealbreaker.

Finding the right time to inform a woman is yet another hurdle.

I've heard mixed responses on when I should inform a woman.

Some say to tell her right away (so neither of us end up wasting our time if it turns out she's unwilling to do my fetish)

Some say to tell her right after we have sex for the first time.

Some say to tell her right before we're about to do our first bedroom session (so that way we'll have a chance to opt out of sex if it turns out she's unwilling to do my fetish, thus protecting her from a hump and dump)

Some say to tell her whenever she's comfortable enough to start leaving the bathroom door open (however soon or long that might be)

Lastly, some have told me to shed my fetish (which isn't an option)
 

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Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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There was a recent-ish thread on here about when to reveal fetishes that aren't dealbreakers.

I'm in the reverse position. My fetish is a dealbreaker.

Finding the right time to inform a woman is yet another hurdle.

I've heard mixed responses on when I should inform a woman.

Some say to tell her right away (so neither of us end up wasting our time if it turns out she's unwilling to do my fetish)

Some say to tell her right after we have sex for the first time.

Some say to tell her right before we're about to do our first bedroom session (so that way we'll have a chance to opt out of sex if it turns out she's unwilling to do my fetish, thus protecting her from a hump and dump)

Some say to tell her whenever she's comfortable enough to start leaving the bathroom door open (however soon or long that might be)

Lastly, some have told me to shed my fetish (which isn't an option)
Uh, aren’t you having enormous anxiety about asking women for dates and rejection?

Shouldn’t you focus on getting a woman first?
 

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Isn't this your second attention-wh0ring thread about your cringy kinks? Or am I having a deja-vu?


Mods: thread can be closed now.
I don't even remember that thread from July 2023 (and I made the thread). Pretty freaky that you remember.

In any case, the thread from July 2023 was simply about the general topic of fetishes.

My current thread is about when to reveal my fetish to a woman.
 

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Uh, aren’t you having enormous anxiety about asking women for dates and rejection?

Shouldn’t you focus on getting a woman first?
Getting a woman in the first place takes priority, you're right.

But there are still instances where the question of when to reveal my fetish comes up.

For example, I never informed the woman I had my last date with about my fetish. Should I have?

And when I signed up for some apps this summer (per my therapist's recommendation), there was the question of whether I should have mentioned my fetish on my profile.
 

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Bruh...have you tried NOT revealing your fetishes to women and MAYBE establishing some connections and sexual chemistry before you tell them a bunch of weird s***?

I thought we addressed this a long time ago, why are you still asking the same questions? How hard is it to not be weird?
 

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My experience:

Throw down some good d*ck a few times, then talk about it in casual conversation. Ive got a bunch of weird kinks and stuff im into, but ive never met a woman who WASNT at least willing to try for some fun - you dont need some formal sit down with her, just say it outright.
 

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I didn't 'remember', I just searched 'fetish' and your name and it turned up in several threads, including one with a similar title.
You don't have to be Sherlock to understand that you really really really badly want to talk about your aberrations.


No, you started it because you wanted to talk about your fetish and nobody reacted in the Kink Friendly thread.


That was already answered in the other thread (big revelation: tell about your fetish right at the start), so again, this is a thread where you can act like your fetish is some big intrigue. Really, dude, nobody cares about your gerontophilia.

So, by all means, scream your fetish from the rooftops once again so everybody here can spend ten pages arguing how your fetish is not going to get you laid, yadayadayada, while you wouldn't get laid anyway because you need the time to open another thread complaining about your social awkwardness/anxiety and then start on about cougars and how it's not so strange that you desire dried up old c*nts because you're freakishly afraid of getting a woman pregnant... Just wondered, why don't you fvck trannies? You say you don't get anxious around men and most of them look like old women anyway, plus it would be a genuine miracle if you could get one pregnant, but I digress. Where was I? Oh yeah, you're just here to get attention and validation for being a Grade A mental case, because you've had tons of advice and haven't acted on a single one.

You're an attention seeking black hole, you're not even entertaining like the other clowns.
This thread isn't about my age preference (I don't even view my age preference as a fetish). My dealbreaker fetish is watching a woman pee.

The broads you refer to as "dried up" are your own peers. Way to disrespect your peers.

I've thought about going the tranny route before (to dodge pregnancy)
 

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Bruh...have you tried NOT revealing your fetishes to women and MAYBE establishing some connections and sexual chemistry before you tell them a bunch of weird s***?

I thought we addressed this a long time ago, why are you still asking the same questions? How hard is it to not be weird?
Ok, you answered my question: In your opinion, I should establish some connection/chemistry before revealing my fetish.

In college, I remember revealing my fetish on a 2nd date (and the broad denied me my fetish)
 

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My experience:

Throw down some good d*ck a few times, then talk about it in casual conversation. Ive got a bunch of weird kinks and stuff im into, but ive never met a woman who WASNT at least willing to try for some fun - you dont need some formal sit down with her, just say it outright.
The one pushback I've heard to that idea (holding off until after we've had sex to reveal my fetish): If the woman turns down my fetish, she's getting dumped.

A guy I know once told me I should reveal my fetish before banging a woman for the first time (so the woman doesn't get humped and dumped)

There's merit to his idea and your idea.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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There was a recent-ish thread on here about when to reveal fetishes that aren't dealbreakers.

I'm in the reverse position. My fetish is a dealbreaker.

Finding the right time to inform a woman is yet another hurdle.

I've heard mixed responses on when I should inform a woman.

Some say to tell her right away (so neither of us end up wasting our time if it turns out she's unwilling to do my fetish)

Some say to tell her right after we have sex for the first time.

Some say to tell her right before we're about to do our first bedroom session (so that way we'll have a chance to opt out of sex if it turns out she's unwilling to do my fetish, thus protecting her from a hump and dump)

Some say to tell her whenever she's comfortable enough to start leaving the bathroom door open (however soon or long that might be)

Lastly, some have told me to shed my fetish (which isn't an option)
At least buy the girl an ice cream cone, before asking: "Do you mind if I take a s-it in your mouth, right after I wash this Chipolte down with a liter of prune juice?"
 

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Just accept that some things are only going to happen on pornhub and don’t mention anything you can’t get an average woman to agree to.

I’d love to watch my girlfriend eat out another hot girl while I’m behind her but most girls aren’t going to agree to that so I try not to bring it up on the first date.
 

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Ok, you answered my question: In your opinion, I should establish some connection/chemistry before revealing my fetish.

In college, I remember revealing my fetish on a 2nd date (and the broad denied me my fetish)
Have you tried NOT having a fetish that you HAVE to explore with every woman you meet?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I didn't 'remember', I just searched 'fetish' and your name and it turned up in several threads, including one with a similar title.
You don't have to be Sherlock to understand that you really really really badly want to talk about your aberrations.


No, you started it because you wanted to talk about your fetish and nobody reacted in the Kink Friendly thread.


That was already answered in the other thread (big revelation: tell about your fetish right at the start), so again, this is a thread where you can act like your fetish is some big intrigue. Really, dude, nobody cares about your gerontophilia.

So, by all means, scream your fetish from the rooftops once again so everybody here can spend ten pages arguing how your fetish is not going to get you laid, yadayadayada, while you wouldn't get laid anyway because you need the time to open another thread complaining about your social awkwardness/anxiety and then start on about cougars and how it's not so strange that you desire dried up old c*nts because you're freakishly afraid of getting a woman pregnant... Just wondered, why don't you fvck trannies? You say you don't get anxious around men and most of them look like old women anyway, plus it would be a genuine miracle if you could get one pregnant, but I digress. Where was I? Oh yeah, you're just here to get attention and validation for being a Grade A mental case, because you've had tons of advice and haven't acted on a single one.

You're an attention seeking black hole, you're not even entertaining like the other clowns.
If there was a "Post of the year" award, this would have my vote...literally spit up my coffee reading this...

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

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Lastly, some have told me to shed my fetish (which isn't an option)
Try like hell to not "graduate" from watching women pee to regularly LARPing as Ed Gein, OP. "I couldn't drop my fetish" isn't a viable defense at a criminal trial
 

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Just accept that some things are only going to happen on pornhub and don’t mention anything you can’t get an average woman to agree to.

I’d love to watch my girlfriend eat out another hot girl while I’m behind her but most girls aren’t going to agree to that so I try not to bring it up on the first date.
While I don't know the exact percentage of how many broads would engage in my fetish, I have gotten (off the top of my head) 3 free broads to let me watch while they pee. 4 if you count my female cousin who peed in front of me once.

Then there was yet another free broad who said she would have let me watch if she had to pee.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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