What are some IOIs that girls give off, when you not talking to the girl, or when youve never talked to the girl before? For example how could you tell a girl is interested if shes sitting or standing away from you?
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Kindness .. He's exactly right lol ..DonGorgon said:proximity/touching
talking/questions
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It is in the way a woman looks at you. It’s not so much about that she scans you or that her eyes dilate as is often mentioned. It is in the way that she looks at you and her eyes are just part of it. It is hard to explain exactly and you’ll just have to figure it out with experience.HandyAndy said:What are some IOIs that girls give off, when you not talking to the girl, or when youve never talked to the girl before? For example how could you tell a girl is interested if shes sitting or standing away from you?
She keeps the conversation going. i.e. no one worded-responses, and if she does, she asks you a question or anything that's on her mind to keep the convo going. She might be smiling also.HandyAndy said:What are some IOIs that girls give off, when you not talking to the girl
That's easy...she looks at you. See it from the corner of your eye. If you're sitting and talking to somebody, and she's right there sitting also, she will look at you in the face and pay attention to what you're saying, even if you're not talking directly to her.or when youve never talked to the girl before? For example how could you tell a girl is interested if shes sitting or standing away from you?
Really? I always just kind of expected that.smooth guy said:She keeps the conversation going. i.e. no one worded-responses, and if she does, she asks you a question or anything that's on her mind to keep the convo going. She might be smiling also.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
This kinda got me thinking. Can I get some feedback on this?tsmith2334 said:Really? I always just kind of expected that.
When I'm out with a girl, like eating at a restaurant, she almost always seems to want to keep the conversation going, give detailed answers, ask questions, etc.
I always just figured it was just them being courteous and not wanting a boring conversation. Is it really a sign of interest?
You sound older than me (since you've mentioned a date at a restaurant), so I can't tell based on experience I had with an older girl, because I haven't. I was referring to teen girls since HandyAndy is nearly my age.tsmith2334 said:Really? I always just kind of expected that.
When I'm out with a girl, like eating at a restaurant, she almost always seems to want to keep the conversation going, give detailed answers, ask questions, etc.
I always just figured it was just them being courteous and not wanting a boring conversation. Is it really a sign of interest?
Great response. Hopefully what you're saying is true, it sounds on the money.smooth guy said:You sound older than me (since you've mentioned a date at a restaurant), so I can't tell based on experience I had with an older girl, because I haven't. I was referring to teen girls since HandyAndy is nearly my age.
What you're saying about them being courteous and not wanting any awkward silences at the date has a point, but I think there's a difference on the body language and the tone of her voice. I mean, you can tell if somebody is having a conversation with you just to avoid any silences or because they WANT TO. If she asks you questions about yourself and seems to be interested in your responses, I'd say that's a sign. If it's a good conversation and not a forced one, that's also a good sign.
But if she's already on a date with you at a restaurant, I think the interest is already there![]()
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.