What are some IOIs that girls give off, when you not talking to the girl, or when youve never talked to the girl before? For example how could you tell a girl is interested if shes sitting or standing away from you?
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
indicators of interest
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"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
tr0ublemaker
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sometimes a girl who digs me will make quick glances, other times that same girl will completely ignore me as if i don't exist. there's no exact science for knowing. you just gotta dive in there, spit your game, regardless of any signs of interest.
Daddy The Pimp
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eye contact , sitting next to you always or chasing you ( i mean @ HS ) , smiling with you while eyecontact
these are pretty much IoI's that u get without talking
these are pretty much IoI's that u get without talking
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
when you catch her looking at you/checking you out, she holds eye contact a little longer than "normal" then looks away..when you're talking to her she kinda has this "puppy dog" look on her face while looking up at you.
check this out though, last semester i started hitting on this girl, she was very friendly and talkative, next time i see her she seems very uncomfortable and nervous around me, at the time, i took this as a sign on disinterest, but later i heard from her friend that she thought i was hot and couldn't help but get uneasy around me..girls that are not very confident with themselves, your typical "cute girl" will act this way towards guys they like, so keep that in mind as well.
check this out though, last semester i started hitting on this girl, she was very friendly and talkative, next time i see her she seems very uncomfortable and nervous around me, at the time, i took this as a sign on disinterest, but later i heard from her friend that she thought i was hot and couldn't help but get uneasy around me..girls that are not very confident with themselves, your typical "cute girl" will act this way towards guys they like, so keep that in mind as well.
ready123
Master Don Juan
if you're asking this when you haven't met her yet, you're trying to compensate for approach anxiety, which is the wrong way to go. use the 3 second rule, so you open your mouth before you think
getting the courage to talk to the girl is such a small step and once you've gotten past it, it's trivial. most everything you'll need to know about whether the girl is attracted to you is found after you both have opened your mouths
getting the courage to talk to the girl is such a small step and once you've gotten past it, it's trivial. most everything you'll need to know about whether the girl is attracted to you is found after you both have opened your mouths
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proximity/touching
talking/questions
smiling
phone calls
kindness
talking/questions
smiling
phone calls
kindness
http://www.sosuave.com/articles/watchtheeyes.htm
i saw this article on the main site about different types of eye contact..the first one "Vertical Scan" reminded me of those days i would be out and some girl would look at my face then start looking at my shoes..i would think WTF is wrong with my shoes, a lot of girls AND some guys were doing this, but i now know why, and that there are a lot of closet homosexuals out there..ahahah...gotta read that article, good s hit
i saw this article on the main site about different types of eye contact..the first one "Vertical Scan" reminded me of those days i would be out and some girl would look at my face then start looking at my shoes..i would think WTF is wrong with my shoes, a lot of girls AND some guys were doing this, but i now know why, and that there are a lot of closet homosexuals out there..ahahah...gotta read that article, good s hit
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She'll turn her body language towards you
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Daddy The Pimp
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Kindness .. He's exactly right lol ..DonGorgon said:
Most of girls are real b!tches sometimes :box: . But when we put them on the game theyll be really kind
..It is in the way a woman looks at you. It’s not so much about that she scans you or that her eyes dilate as is often mentioned. It is in the way that she looks at you and her eyes are just part of it. It is hard to explain exactly and you’ll just have to figure it out with experience.HandyAndy said:
It is like a woman will look at you and she will be thinking, almost projecting. If you walk into a room full of people and there is a girl that is attracted to you she will look at you differently than the way others look at you and the way she looks at other people. It is like she is trying to communicate with you through her eyes and with her face in a kind of hopeful way. Sometimes it is almost like she is going “oooh, oooh, pick me” on the inside. Depends on the girl, some are very subtle, others can be quite animated.
The more confident you are when you look back at her the more she will express to you. And if you smile and are flirty she will react in kind. If her attraction for you is strong enough and you look back at her with enough confidence, some women will squirm.
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She keeps the conversation going. i.e. no one worded-responses, and if she does, she asks you a question or anything that's on her mind to keep the convo going. She might be smiling also.HandyAndy said:
That's easy...she looks at you. See it from the corner of your eye. If you're sitting and talking to somebody, and she's right there sitting also, she will look at you in the face and pay attention to what you're saying, even if you're not talking directly to her.
tsmith2334
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Really? I always just kind of expected that.smooth guy said:
When I'm out with a girl, like eating at a restaurant, she almost always seems to want to keep the conversation going, give detailed answers, ask questions, etc.
I always just figured it was just them being courteous and not wanting a boring conversation. Is it really a sign of interest?
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
tsmith2334
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This kinda got me thinking. Can I get some feedback on this?tsmith2334 said:
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You sound older than me (since you've mentioned a date at a restaurant), so I can't tell based on experience I had with an older girl, because I haven't. I was referring to teen girls since HandyAndy is nearly my age.tsmith2334 said:
What you're saying about them being courteous and not wanting any awkward silences at the date has a point, but I think there's a difference on the body language and the tone of her voice. I mean, you can tell if somebody is having a conversation with you just to avoid any silences or because they WANT TO. If she asks you questions about yourself and seems to be interested in your responses, I'd say that's a sign. If it's a good conversation and not a forced one, that's also a good sign.
But if she's already on a date with you at a restaurant, I think the interest is already there
tsmith2334
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Great response. Hopefully what you're saying is true, it sounds on the money.smooth guy said:You sound older than me (since you've mentioned a date at a restaurant), so I can't tell based on experience I had with an older girl, because I haven't. I was referring to teen girls since HandyAndy is nearly my age.
What you're saying about them being courteous and not wanting any awkward silences at the date has a point, but I think there's a difference on the body language and the tone of her voice. I mean, you can tell if somebody is having a conversation with you just to avoid any silences or because they WANT TO. If she asks you questions about yourself and seems to be interested in your responses, I'd say that's a sign. If it's a good conversation and not a forced one, that's also a good sign.
But if she's already on a date with you at a restaurant, I think the interest is already there
You also come across as very mature and wise for your age. You're right that I'm a little older, early twenties.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.