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Under 6 doesnt mean short. 5'8 and 5'2 are two different things.

Anyway Im not suggesting anyone to give up, Im simply answering to a guy that say that money (height) dont matter when it does.

Regarding confidence, insecurity and so on, I said many times they dont exist out of thin hair, will power or desire...confidence exists after success as much as insecurity grows after failures.

Women dont dig confident men, they dig successful men that are clearly confident ofc.
Hahaha. But you're wrong because there's many financially successful men on here and in the world that are either complete failures with women. Also I'm poor and I can get women who are not over weight.
 

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Hahaha. But you're wrong because there's many financially successful men on here and in the world that are either complete failures with women. Also I'm poor and I can get women who are not over weight.
The money thing was a metaphor...but hey nicely done mate Im sure you are the coolest kid of the school :p
 

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I've even dated girls taller than me before.
Exactly. Height may have played a factor at times when I struck out with some chick, but one of my current plates is taller than me and this girl would do anything for me. She often tells me how much she adores my confidence and dominant attitude—that she’s never dated a guy who just takes charge. So, there’s that.
 

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As it turns out, height does not matter much in a country-wide housing crisis. I feel bad for the guys who are going to feed into the supporter role during this time, only for things to return to a hypergamos state.
 

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Your right about that last part, confidence is a byproduct of success in most cases
Then theres "stupid confidence" which we've discussed on this site. An "unearned" very high belief in one self and it's capabilities. High confidence means you acquire skills more easily.
 

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The money thing was a metaphor...but hey nicely done mate Im sure you are the coolest kid of the school :p
Not at all. My life is in shambles. Has been for years. But I figure out a way and I can still get women sometimes. Not fatties or women that look disfigured either. Albeit sometimes crazy women. The 5th to last woman i was sleeping with, I was riding a bicycle to her "boyfriends" house when he was at work. She ended up stabbing him again and she's going to prison. Honestly that woman was fun and pretty cool. She even loaned me money when I needed.
 

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My bud from work (going on 13 years, he was one of the few to call me while I was in the hospital after a major unexpected live-or-die surgery), about 8-9 years ago, married a single-mom (son who's 7 or 8 I forget) woman 7 years older than him (so now she's 47 and he's 39 with now-greying hair). He's a very good-looking guy (no-homo), but...........he's short (probably 5'6" maybe 5'5"). I remember him being so excited when he was getting married those many years ago. He tells me today that his step-son (which he deems his son as well) is 15 and will soon be out of the house. He has no offspring and his wife at 47 really can't have anymore, so he's there for the sex, not to be "alone," and prestige or social clout (water-fountain chit-chat). To each their own, eh, but I think he may have been able to do better, but sure these are DIRE, trying times in which we live. Here I am 6'2" in almost magnificent shape and financially very sound, yet I do not want the things he does. I've currently been seeing a 27 yr old who could give me children. She's having to Work to get in my world. It's all up to her, cause I ain't pursuin Sheeeeeit.
 

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Who Dares Win said:
My point of view is very simple, either you have what it takes to have a fulfilling relationship with women or act accordingly wheter is always keeping your investment low or not invest at all.

The supreme dumb fvck in my opinion is a guy that doesnt have what it takes to have a woman attracted to him yet goes all-in with a marriage thinking that it will work...those are the guys that end up divorced and robbed not only of money but of time and mental health.
You mean keep a woman attracted to him, surely. How would a man get married to a woman if she's not attracted to him in the first place?

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Personally I suggested guy many times here that if they want a stable family they should increase their value as much as possible within their 30s and get serious with a girl no more than mid 20s, then share as many bonding experiences as possible to increse the chances to make it work.

Any man that for any reason (lms, age, culture, work) doesnt have what it takes to strongly attract and in such state a woman should avoid any all-in type investment.
I don't think that was discussed here, but yeah, I can see that point. I thought the idea here was meeting women in the first place and going past the first date if you are meeting someone online. I think the level you've taken this is just more serious than I thought for the scope of this type of thread. So the tone is just confusing, but yeah, of course, what you are saying is common sense.

I don't believe in red-pill thinking when it comes to marriage and long-term anyway since you can only keep a game up for so long. Soon your true self comes out and if that self is something that's not compatible with the lady then it won't work. It's always best to be authentic so that the woman is attracted to you, not who you are trying to be to attract her. The game thing is only good not to blow things up if you foot is on the "looks" door and you are dealing with a mentally healthy woman, and going past the initial hurdles. When there is a fork in the road then that's where your advice/mindset comes in.

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Those who disobey my suggestion are those who think a post wall woman is getting married with them cause of attraction and love while even from their first date its obvious she has no desire for intimacy with them.
You have people in real life that even think like this? That is unthinkable here.
 

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You mean keep a woman attracted to him, surely. How would a man get married to a woman if she's not attracted to him in the first place?



I don't think that was discussed here, but yeah, I can see that point. I thought the idea here was meeting women in the first place and going past the first date if you are meeting someone online. I think the level you've taken this is just more serious than I thought for the scope of this type of thread. So the tone is just confusing, but yeah, of course, what you are saying is common sense.

I don't believe in red-pill thinking when it comes to marriage and long-term anyway since you can only keep a game up for so long. Soon your true self comes out and if that self is something that's not compatible with the lady then it won't work. It's always best to be authentic so that the woman is attracted to you, not who you are trying to be to attract her. The game thing is only good not to blow things up if you foot is on the "looks" door and you are dealing with a mentally healthy woman, and going past the initial hurdles. When there is a fork in the road then that's where your advice/mindset comes in.



You have people in real life that even think like this? That is unthinkable here.
Dont ask me, ask the countless betas who get married in their early 30s to a post wall thinking that they finally defeated the chads and won the princess.
 

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Dont ask me, ask the countless betas who get married in their early 30s to a post wall thinking that they finally defeated the chads and won the princess.
Like I said, don't know any personally.
 

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Then theres "stupid confidence" which we've discussed on this site. An "unearned" very high belief in one self and it's capabilities. High confidence means you acquire skills more easily.
I think that woukd ve defined as arrogance not confidence though
 

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I think that woukd ve defined as arrogance not confidence though
If arrogance works well for your life making outcomes possible your more humble self could never do. What if it only turns off people who would never like you always excessively negatively judge you then what?
 

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If arrogance works well for your life making outcomes possible your more himble self could never do. and only turns off people who would never like you always excessively negatively judge you then what?
Arroagnce is fake confidence, you can only fakw it for so long.

Like the old saying "fake it till you make it"
Except you evntually need to make it
 

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Arroagnce is fake confidence, you can only fakw it for so long.

Like the old saying "fake it till you make it"
Except you evntually need to make it
What i was saying is some guys innately had a stronger "force". Or self belief. Even without being developed. As they grow their skills it grows even more. I personally don't believe in "fake it till you make it", i believe in progression up the various skill "ladders". But if "fake it till you make it" works for those who employ it, who am i to say it doesn't work.
 

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Then theres "stupid confidence" which we've discussed on this site. An "unearned" very high belief in one self and it's capabilities. High confidence means you acquire skills more easily.
I do believe the people with "stupid confidence" do better than they would have if they didn't have it. I look at it as positive thinking, you will always have a better outcome using positive thinking than you will if you use negative thinking.
 

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You guys need to really let this height stuff go. I swear every week I see a new thread about height on here. Will you get less women because your short? Yes. Will you not get any women because your short? No. The truth is that you can't do anything about it if your short but there is plenty of other stuff you can do.

Short guys have to do a lot of extra work improving themselves if they want to get more women. There are things that a tall good looking guy can get away with but the short guy won't get away with. When your short you should be trying to improve yourself in every way possible in your life. All guys should really be doing this but it is especially important for short guys.

You need to work on your fitness. You definitely are not going to get women if your short and fat or short and skinny. You will need to put on some muscle. Clothing really needs to be on point. You can't go around looking like a short bum. Your career, social life, cars, home, etc all needs to be on point. I could go on and on but I hope you guys get the picture.

Being short doesn't mean its over for you, unless your maybe 5'3" and under. You just have to put in a lot more work then a tall good looking guy if you want to get lots of women. I should know this because I'm 5'5" exactly. I have banged more women then tons of guys that are taller then me. I was the first one to get laid out of my group of guy friends in high school and they were all taller then me.

Another tip I have is to wear nicer shoes. Something with a heal like oxfords, wing tips, chelsea boots, etc. It helps make you look taller and makes you look like you have good fashion. Women always look at mens shoes. Please no more stupid threads about height on here.
 

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Dunno what MOG is but money can buy escorts and even better trips to Tijuana or Pattaya where you get more bang for your buck. Literally.
 

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Arroagnce is fake confidence, you can only fakw it for so long.

Like the old saying "fake it till you make it"
Except you evntually need to make it
Some say Deion Sanders had arrogance. He was a top level performer and didn't try to hide it. I don't know.
 

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Then why have I never seen a tall dude with the hottest women? Why do I see 5"8 to 5"11 dudes with the hottest women?
 
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