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Incels: Are they just in a temporary dry spell?

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You can disagree as much as you like but it seems that I'm coming with at least anecdotal evidence from here and elsewhere. What do you have to prove your position? Who do you know has worked on themselves, in the past 2 years, with social media as a dominant tech, and found someone they were happy with?
Not an incel, never really had an issue pulling in ladies. I've known a few dude's who have. They got in shape, worked on their purpose, got new threads and worked on themselves. They were able to get some pvssy. Perhaps, the incels which are stuck in neutral have some sort of phobia or medical condition that prevents them from getting them out of their funk? Maybe they are just very depressed or have zero confidence, and nothing will improve it? Not sure, but I am sure working on one's self, for most dudes, will in fact lead to results. It will take time, dedication and patience, but it will happen. However, I will stress, this is a lifestyle choice that they need to do for themselves, not to get the ladies (as Aaron Clarey would say). No one wants to be with a 30 year old dude, no job, living with their parents with no direction.
 

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Um... me.

I know the place is full of betas, but anyone with a scrote can go out and do whatever they want. Male privilege. Indulge.

Look at the world as it is, and it's jokes. Men are complete pansies now. The average male is scared stiff serious. What's that bit on Scarface where he f.ucking well takes what he wants?

"The world is yours". Serious.

It's a movie dude.
 

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Incel means involuntary celibate, so by definition it isn't a choice. It's hard to believe that someone could be in such a bad state that they NEVER at least luck into something once in a while. They must either be horribly hideous, mind numbingly boring, have some severe mental issues, or at least be in a very messed up state of mind. I just don't see getting laid as being that difficult. Maybe a guy isn't going to be some superpimp banging five HB9s in one night, but it isn't that hard to get something decent at least once in a while.
What of a guy has tried to develop the personality and social proof required for years yet still fails?
 

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all are more depressing than rewarding. i slept with fat and old woman and it depressedme
I would totally do a fat chick if she wasn't old...
 

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Sadly, for self-identified Incels "it's over, buddy boyo."

They're too nihilistic, too blackpilled and too unmotivated that they wont even TRY to improve their circumstance because "there is no ascension."

"I was born....and it was over...."

These dudes have already (mentally) checked out.....
 
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Incel means involuntary celibate, so by definition it isn't a choice. It's hard to believe that someone could be in such a bad state that they NEVER at least luck into something once in a while. They must either be horribly hideous, mind numbingly boring, have some severe mental issues, or at least be in a very messed up state of mind. I just don't see getting laid as being that difficult. Maybe a guy isn't going to be some superpimp banging five HB9s in one night, but it isn't that hard to get something decent at least once in a while.
I don't think that just because a man is not a virgin - even a non-escortcel - he's not incel at some stage of life. George Sodini once had a girlfriend who sexed him, but it had been a LONG time before he became an incelorrist. To me, an incel is someone who can't control getting a decent girlfriend on a regular enough basis that he considers it an issue. So a chubby chaser is pretty much never an incel (I think I'd rather be an incel than fork a fat chick).
 

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Even Incels have options.

At least kick start options.

1) Prostitutes

2) A fugly woman even if she resembles an Ox.

3) Tranny

4) sexbot
Sure, some incels could become escortcels, which helps keep them sane, but such men are still incels. Being with an Ox is just depressing; I'd rather be a fapcel. As for trannies, I have a suspicion that a lot of incels who think they have ascended are really just doing secret trannies, but obviously that is as bad as an Ox. Sexbots, at the present level of technology is not there yet, but at some point the uncanny valley will be reached - but it can only be as good as escortceling
 

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I don't think that just because a man is not a virgin - even a non-escortcel - he's not incel at some stage of life. George Sodini once had a girlfriend who sexed him, but it had been a LONG time before he became an incelorrist. To me, an incel is someone who can't control getting a decent girlfriend on a regular enough basis that he considers it an issue. So a chubby chaser is pretty much never an incel (I think I'd rather be an incel than fork a fat chick).
If your choice was to pork fat or go years without sex you better take what you can get.
 

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I thought incels were virgins?

I've banged a handful of girls so don't consider myself one, but I can definitely relate as getting laid seems like a lottery win each time it happens for me lol
Yes, you are an incel.
 

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Not an incel, never really had an issue pulling in ladies. I've known a few dude's who have. They got in shape, worked on their purpose, got new threads and worked on themselves. They were able to get some pvssy. Perhaps, the incels which are stuck in neutral have some sort of phobia or medical condition that prevents them from getting them out of their funk? Maybe they are just very depressed or have zero confidence, and nothing will improve it? Not sure, but I am sure working on one's self, for most dudes, will in fact lead to results. It will take time, dedication and patience, but it will happen. However, I will stress, this is a lifestyle choice that they need to do for themselves, not to get the ladies (as Aaron Clarey would say). No one wants to be with a 30 year old dude, no job, living with their parents with no direction.
What type of ladies did your friends pull? Were they high quality hb 7+ girlfriend material or just some random skanky ons? If its lower than an hb7 then it does not count.

I think its clear at this point that nobody wants to go through that type of effort to end up with with some blah at the end of the day.
 

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No one wants to be with a 30 year old dude, no job, living with their parents with no direction.
If that was me, I'd just not tell the girl and lie about having a good job and try to bang her somewhere else (although i'd even just take her back to my parents - if we were both just looking for fun that night, neither party usually cares)

PS - I have a slayer friend who, even though he used to have a fairly well paid job and his own place, has been unemployed and back living with his parents for a while now, and he still gets laid like a rockstar with random hot girls. Very handsome dude. Mainly banging 18-22 years olds despite being 32 aswell. lol

I think if you have extreme attraction (through looks or whatever) then nothing else realyl matters. She won't care about the job and living arrangements and will want to hook up and get banged if you get her hot enough

However, if you're talking about actually getting a serious girlfriend, then I agree that a job and your own place etc obviously matters. Not that I want a gf, though!
 

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What type of ladies did your friends pull? Were they high quality hb 7+ girlfriend material or just some random skanky ons? If its lower than an hb7 then it does not count.

I think its clear at this point that nobody wants to go through that type of effort to end up with with some blah at the end of the day.
One thing I've noticed on the forum is that an HB whatever level depends on the person. So, what a person you end up with may not be the same as someone else. Some think Taylor Swift is a HB8, other's think she looks like a rat and is a HB4. It's all perspective. If any incel cannot pull in "skany" *****, as you call it, I would think that's better than none at all. Again, we're are not all blessed to be like you. You know, your Einstein like mind, Adonis like body and your Casanova like social skills with the ladies. Oh how we should all be like you. Maybe one day.
 

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If that was me, I'd just not tell the girl and lie about having a good job and try to bang her somewhere else (although i'd even just take her back to my parents - if we were both just looking for fun that night, neither party usually cares)

PS - I have a slayer friend who, even though he used to have a fairly well paid job and his own place, has been unemployed and back living with his parents for a while now, and he still gets laid like a rockstar with random hot girls. Very handsome dude. Mainly banging 18-22 years olds despite being 32 aswell. lol

I think if you have extreme attraction (through looks or whatever) then nothing else realyl matters. She won't care about the job and living arrangements and will want to hook up and get banged if you get her hot enough

However, if you're talking about actually getting a serious girlfriend, then I agree that a job and your own place etc obviously matters. Not that I want a gf, though!
Whatever works dude. I recommend all dudes read or listen to the 48 Laws of Power. One of the laws, I believe 37 is something where you create an illusion of yourself on to others. Great read. Here's a complete list of the laws; should anyone care (https://improvementpower.com/blog/48-laws-of-power-list)
 

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One thing I've noticed on the forum is that an HB whatever level depends on the person. So, what a person you end up with may not be the same as someone else. Some think Taylor Swift is a HB8, other's think she looks like a rat and is a HB4. It's all perspective.
You evaded to answer the question.

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If any incel cannot pull in "skany" *****, as you call it, I would think that's better than none at all.
There is no bragging rights to that. No wonder people wouldn't want to listen to your advice and invest in yourself. There is no prize with a "better than nothing" mentality because you'll feel ripped off at the end of the day. You don't feel ripped off if you don't invest in yourself as you are saying. It's like spending good money after bad. You see, the ugliest land-whale woman can feel entitled for a Chad for doing nothing and ignoring men within her league. However, a guy, after investing in himself has to settle with "better than nothing" because women are over-entitled and if you struggle hard enough, you might get a low quality woman that's hit the wall and decided to give you a chance. Sounds great!

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Again, we're are not all blessed to be like you. You know, your Einstein like mind, Adonis like body and your Casanova like social skills with the ladies. Oh how we should all be like you. Maybe one day.
You said you had no issues pulling women? You are not sounding like you are pulling high quality hot girls?
 

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You evaded to answer the question.



There is no bragging rights to that. No wonder people wouldn't want to listen to your advice and invest in yourself. There is no prize with a "better than nothing" mentality because you'll feel ripped off at the end of the day. You don't feel ripped off if you don't invest in yourself as you are saying. It's like spending good money after bad. You see, the ugliest land-whale woman can feel entitled for a Chad for doing nothing and ignoring men within her league. However, a guy, after investing in himself has to settle with "better than nothing" because women are over-entitled and if you struggle hard enough, you might get a low quality woman that's hit the wall and decided to give you a chance. Sounds great!



You said you had no issues pulling women? You are not sounding like you are pulling high quality hot girls?
I didn't evade any question. I answered how I see fit. If you don't like my response, that is fine, but it's on you. I can handle my own with the ladies. Define a high quality lady? Some think Kim Kardashian is high quality (sans her wealth), others think she's a fat *****. Some think Britney Spears is the same, others think she's a bi-polar *****. Eye is in the beholder. What you find attractive may be different that what I find attractive, and vice-versa. It's all perspective.
 
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