"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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So on new year's eve, I was drinking a bit. Me and my friend (Let's call her Julie) were hanging out just chatting at a party. I've known this girl since I was 15 and have always sorta had sort of a crush on her. She's sort of been seeing my friend (Let's call him Stan), and he hasn't put forth any commitment between them even though she wants to be his girlfriend. Stan wasn't there that night and Julie was extremely flirty with me. Giving me kisses on the cheek and stuff, I just tried to play it stupid and act oblivious to it since I'm good friends with Stan.

Later that night I wound up having my arm around here and pulling flirty gestures on her, just cause I really wanted to and I was sort of intoxicated past the point of having self control. She really seemed into it which was cool, but I just don't wanna piss my good friend off. I don't think she told him about it yet.

Later this week, Stan and I were hanging out and crashed at my place after partying a little bit. He was telling me about Julie and how he's not really into her and is in love with another girl. He also called this girl on the phone that night and talked to her for a good 20 minutes.

So I don't know what I should do here.. Should I just go for Julie? Or talk to Stan about it first? She's been sending me text messages which seem to imply she's interested. Just not sure how to go about pursuing the situation or if I should just completely back off. Any thoughts?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

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I don't understand whats the problem. Seems like you have class torwads your friends. Which is good. If he said his not in too her. Well, go for it! What your waiting for! My friends use to say ant no fun if the homeys can't have none.. Your friend is not steady with her...
 
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You don't talk to girls your friends talk to. That's just ****ed up unless she means nothing to him..
 
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Pierce said:
You don't talk to girls your friends talk to. That's just ****ed up unless she means nothing to him..
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I've known her way longer than him and they're not in a relationship. Read the thread
 
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she may be using you to get his attention, knowing you are his best friend.
why would she want you now? you've known her since 15, she hasnt been interested until stan isnt giving her attention?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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chiyeung said:
she may be using you to get his attention, knowing you are his best friend.
why would she want you now? you've known her since 15, she hasnt been interested until stan isnt giving her attention?
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This is true, but I do not believe he will even go for her if this happens. Even if it did happen, I'm not looking for a relationship or to fall in love, just a casual hook up would be cool with me. I also display much more confidence than him, he's always acting timid and quiet around her etc.
 
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i would be careful.

girls can be manipulative, and she'll be no different despite you knowing her so long.

to answer your question, i would talk to your friend first.
 
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