"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I'm finally out of LJBF zone

lighthouse1956

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I started hanging around my late wife's best friend (Jan) soon after she died, and she ljbf me several times. Now, I almost married another woman (Lil)which looks very similar to my wife. Then Lil got upset about favors I did for Jan and they had an argument with each other, and I did not side with Lil and defended my right to have my own friends and help them where I see fit.

A few days later Jan calls me, tells me she did not realize how much she missed me, and wants me to know she has feelings for me "before it's too late".

I guess there's a lesson in here somewhere, but why did it take so long, and when I was almost 'off the market'?
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Deadly_Assassin

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I guess chicks always want what others have. Or maybe Jan wants to get back at Lil?
 

SilverSonnet

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Wow, you've got some serious deciding to do. But, decide wisely. 'Cos Jan, might just be a little jealous that Lil is getting you. I'd personally stick with Lil, as she is who you chose and that Jan told you too late. Her fault, dont feel ANY guilt for this, you gave her plenty of chances. Good luck with your future marriage. Hope you have an awesome wedding :)
 

WesCottII

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So, to clear up. . .

You "do favours" for a woman, and your wife to be is annoyed. . . and you side with the other woman, so you can keep doing her favours, in the hope that she tells you she loves you.

and she ljbf me several times.
That should have been it. Any time chasing, or convincing otherwise stinks of desperation.

I don't want to hate on you, but you've hung onto the notion of Jan liking you for faaaar to long. This time should have been spent on other women (to be fair, you got lil), who you then turned on when she had a confrontation with Jan.

You don't owe women favours. You don't owe Jan your time.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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L B

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If you are serious with Lil, drop Jan asap. Don't waste anymore time with Jan and mess up your relationship with Lil. Men and women cannot be friends.
 

Juan_Man

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First off, let me offer my condolences to you for losing your wife. Also, keep in mind that Jan probably didn't want to get involved with you because she was your late wife's best friend. Jan probably thought she would have been betraying her, even though your wife has passed on. But the choice is yours. Personally, if you really like Lil, then I say that she is the one you should be with. But if you still have feelings for Jan, well....like I said, the choice is yours.
 
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