"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
I'm fairly certain I'm stepping into the Ultimate Sh*t Test tomorrow night.
- Thread starter Yuma
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Yuma
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Hahahahaha amazing.zekko said:I already gave my opinion on this, but I'm actually kind of disappointed you're not going. I would have loved to have gotten a field report on how this went lol. Or been a fly on the wall or something.
It would almost be fun to go there and totally self amuse. Like eat six onions before you go and pass horrid gas through the whole mealOr bring her flowers and a card and read poetry to her, anything weird.
This is how I foresee it going - she's going to call me later and ask if I'm still coming, I'm going to say no and tell her that a girl I know wanted to go see the movie and that I'm doing that instead, and then she'll do one of two things:
1. act subtlely offended, like most girls probably would, and maybe try to schedule something else.
2. act like nothing is wrong at all and then not contact me for a while.
Either way, the ball is still in my court for the next shot.
I would definitely FLAKE, and by flake I mean stand her up with no warning and no explanation. With any luck both the other dudes will stand her up too.. now that would be funny.
Except that we all know that those guys will show up, will kiss her ass all night (though not literally, they'll get no action) and will probably fight over the bill to look like some big man provider. She'll be happy with her huge inflated ego and will either go off to find some random guy to fvck or go back home to her vibrator. That's my guess on how her night'll go. The only unsure thing is how will the OP standing her up affect her? Will she even care? Only time will tell.Zarky said:
GreatHornedOwl
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That's going nowhere...
Don't listen to these guys telling you to flake without warning. Text her back "No... I don't do dinner with other guys."
Never let a woman put you in a situation you're uncomfortable with.
Take this as a learning experience.
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
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jophil28
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Any woman who tries to pull that knows exactly what the guys want , and in the process, she gets to feel powerfiul and in control of three chumps.
This whole scenario sounds like some delusional crAp promoted by one of those by "You Go Girl" magazines.
Actually the way for you to win this game and F this froggie princess is NOT to play.
Let her wonder where you are and who you are with while she plays ego games with those other fools.
If he calls her back and tells her he's not going, it's too late. Looks like he sat around like a dork and talked about it with his pals and came to conclusion it was a bad move.
If he lies and tells her he's going out with another chick, she'll know he's lying and that will make him look like a tool.
The only way to do it is not show up.
Atom Smasher
Master Don Juan
Flaking could make her speculate that you didn't have the guts to show up and are at home playing video games, so I recommend taking the bull by the horns and saying, "Sorry, I just looked at my scheduler and I see I mistakenly double-booked. I already had promised to take a young lady to [whatever]. Have a great time!"
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dddAi8FF3F4
wait_out
Master Don Juan
Don't expect to win any points out of this but it's gratifying to see her get all passive-aggressive in public after being sidelined. I wouldn't search out these situations deliberately though -- its more fun to spend your time connecting with fun happy people than trying to outwit bad ones.
BTW, you don't owe her an explanation if you're not interested. She has a brain, let her use it.
That may work some of the times, other times the guys will try to freeze you or undermine you especially if they are trying to tag some ass and they see you as AMOG. After all you are there to pick up girls not guys so if you aren't interested in the girl anymore then at this point you should plan about making your exit.wait_out said:
The good thing about this situation is that the OP learned ahead of time of the scheme and may choose not to be a part of it.
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Naughty Ninja
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Furyguy
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Or maybe she was just trying to be polite. Or maybe you are just already friendzoned, along with the other two chumps.
Anyways, this already transpired by now, right? Any updates?
Don't go simple as that. Guys on here keep forgetting a simple yet golden rule of seduction which is "in order to seduce you have to isolate!"Kal0051 said:
It's a simple rule really. You shouldn't agree to "hangout" with any woman and other people unless she is your girlfriend already. This includes her friends, male friends, female friends, family, going to parties etc etc. What is "hanging out?" When there is one more person involved besides her which no longer qualifies it as a date between you too.
It is one of the simplest of rules to follow yet guys are so stupid they forget about it. They end up hanging out with the target and her friends making it even more difficult to isolate and seduce the target. Not only that but you are allowing yourself to be included to her circle of friends which is the opposite of what you want her to see you as. You want her to see you as a lover not a friend. You are basically friend-zoning yourself.
I don't think I need to say much about going to hang out with her and 2 other males. This is the most stupid thing any man would do. This is what guys do on dating shows when competing for a woman. You are supposed to put yourself in situations of advantage rather than the opposite.
In fact many women will invite you to hang out with their circle of friends to friend-zone you. They will flake on your attempts to go out on a date and counter with hanging out with friends. They are trying to friendzone you without you even knowing it.
Follow the rule. All your interactions with your target should be on a 1 on 1 basis. You can hang out and meet her friends if you guys become official but for now your main goal is to isolate and seduce.
This also goes for YOU INVITING HER TO HANG OUT WITH YOUR FRIENDS. Another stupid mistake done mostly by guys who are afraid of pushing the envelope and asking the girl on a date. No wonder you can't get a girlfriend you invite them out to hangout with friends rather than taking her on a date where you 2 can be alone and you can work your seduction game.
he already went, here's his updateblueline said:
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=174604
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.