You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
I only quoted this section for a reason. You sacrificed your "I am the prize" frame when you said "but that's up to you". This is clearly giving her all the power to decide if she wants to sleep with you.DarkShade said:Well, quick update. We texted each other for the next half hour or so. My notes in parenthesis:
Me: I understand. I am not looking for a serious relationship either. doesn't mean we can't do anything, but that's up to you.
Her: oh so you wanted a **** buddy then (at this point I'm like IT'S A TRAP)
I'll report back tomorrow. :crazy:
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Interesting Darkshade. I gravitate towards smart women as well -- this is almost like a form of intellectual foreplay. It's a kind of mutual qualification as well as a demonstration of your value. This leads to a lot of one night stands because it is a rare approach. I can sketch out how an insurgent network operates on a ****tail napkin and I will be enjoying myself and confident because it's where my interests lie. A smart (secure) girl will be a lot more impressed by that than asking "nice hair, is it real?"DarkShade said:During this time Abby and I are having intellectual conversation about politics, the economy, etc. She's brilliant, an art history and journalism major (I'm a history major and education minor) even though we are opposite political parties we find some common ground and enjoy each others company. I'm leaning in (I know, a big no-no) because it's loud and I'm trying to listen to her, and she looks me right in the eyes and open mouth kisses me while we're sitting at a table...
There we chat some more, and she says something that's stuck with me. In the middle of a political conversation, she looks at me and says "You have no idea how wet it makes me that I can talk to you about this stuff.", whether she was being exaggurative, silly or serious I thought it was a cool remark to make.
Yes. But if you set things up well, she should be leading, quickly -- because guys like you don't come around everyday, and she risks losing you if she doesn't show you she's serious.wjh said:Is it just me or was she not the one leading the entire time?
I understand letting her assume the lead at certain points, like when she offers her bedroom as a place to stay the night, but the entire encounter - and every move - should not be initiated by the woman. Maybe I'm just old school, but I feel as if a girl more aggressive than me is probably not trust worthy. That being said, I wouldn't kick her out of bed, I just don't know how "far" I would get with that type of girl.wait_out said:Yes. But if you set things up well, she should be leading, quickly -- because guys like you don't come around everyday, and she risks losing you if she doesn't show you she's serious.
Hence the quote, "They are all the promiscuous type for the right guy." That kind of whirlwind romance is almost codified in Hollywood, and it's socially acceptable for women, if not encouraged.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
horaholic said:Thats a hell of a bump, man. He never gave any updates, though.
I was interested how this whole chain of events started with a serious conversation. PUA routines are based on light-hearted fluff like palm reading, corny jokes, and emotional sucker punches like C+F & negs. Not intellect.horaholic said:This thread was a month and a half old, and the OP hasnt brought it back. Why are you guys posting on it?