Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
I only quoted this section for a reason. You sacrificed your "I am the prize" frame when you said "but that's up to you". This is clearly giving her all the power to decide if she wants to sleep with you.DarkShade said:Well, quick update. We texted each other for the next half hour or so. My notes in parenthesis:
Me: I understand. I am not looking for a serious relationship either. doesn't mean we can't do anything, but that's up to you.
Her: oh so you wanted a **** buddy then (at this point I'm like IT'S A TRAP)
I'll report back tomorrow. :crazy:
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Interesting Darkshade. I gravitate towards smart women as well -- this is almost like a form of intellectual foreplay. It's a kind of mutual qualification as well as a demonstration of your value. This leads to a lot of one night stands because it is a rare approach. I can sketch out how an insurgent network operates on a ****tail napkin and I will be enjoying myself and confident because it's where my interests lie. A smart (secure) girl will be a lot more impressed by that than asking "nice hair, is it real?"DarkShade said:During this time Abby and I are having intellectual conversation about politics, the economy, etc. She's brilliant, an art history and journalism major (I'm a history major and education minor) even though we are opposite political parties we find some common ground and enjoy each others company. I'm leaning in (I know, a big no-no) because it's loud and I'm trying to listen to her, and she looks me right in the eyes and open mouth kisses me while we're sitting at a table...
There we chat some more, and she says something that's stuck with me. In the middle of a political conversation, she looks at me and says "You have no idea how wet it makes me that I can talk to you about this stuff.", whether she was being exaggurative, silly or serious I thought it was a cool remark to make.
Yes. But if you set things up well, she should be leading, quickly -- because guys like you don't come around everyday, and she risks losing you if she doesn't show you she's serious.wjh said:Is it just me or was she not the one leading the entire time?
I understand letting her assume the lead at certain points, like when she offers her bedroom as a place to stay the night, but the entire encounter - and every move - should not be initiated by the woman. Maybe I'm just old school, but I feel as if a girl more aggressive than me is probably not trust worthy. That being said, I wouldn't kick her out of bed, I just don't know how "far" I would get with that type of girl.wait_out said:Yes. But if you set things up well, she should be leading, quickly -- because guys like you don't come around everyday, and she risks losing you if she doesn't show you she's serious.
Hence the quote, "They are all the promiscuous type for the right guy." That kind of whirlwind romance is almost codified in Hollywood, and it's socially acceptable for women, if not encouraged.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
horaholic said:Thats a hell of a bump, man. He never gave any updates, though.
I was interested how this whole chain of events started with a serious conversation. PUA routines are based on light-hearted fluff like palm reading, corny jokes, and emotional sucker punches like C+F & negs. Not intellect.horaholic said:This thread was a month and a half old, and the OP hasnt brought it back. Why are you guys posting on it?