Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
You know I wouldn't talk about this style over here. The whole concept of a guy accepting that women ultimately do the choosing isn't a good thing to bring up over here Chris.ChrizZ said:This only works if the girl is already feeling you though.
You got guts for approaching so much, it just seems like you need to be more sincere with these girls.ChrizZ said:You are doing ok in your approaches and getting some results because of your height and accent, but most of your approaches sound abrupt. You are not building any repertoire with any of the girls that are you not closing with.
#1
I was standing in line and saw two hotties in front of me.
Me: "Hey, let me ask you guys a question...I want a serious answer though...Do I look like a drug dealer?"
This is very abrupt. Most girls aren't turned on by something criminal.
Them: "No, why?"
Me: "Because I was walking outside and then suddenly to girls were coming up to me and they were like *putting arm around one chick* 'Hey, do you got some weed?' and they were acting all *****y about it when I told them no.
Them: Omg, really!!!
Me: Yeah, American girls are weird.
Them: Where are you from?
Good, shows interest.
Me: I'm from Germany blablabla. So, what have you guys been up to?
No repertoire here. Where you from? What are your names? What do you like to do? Maybe we could do what you like to do something. "What are you up to" is like something you would say to a buddy, not a girl who you're trying to get into her pants.
Them: Oh, we were just studying.
Me: Really. I'm having a party tonight at my dorm, you guys should come.
Them: Sure, where is it at...
Me: It's at blablaba.
...then that one chick said, hey we gotta get going now and pulled the other chick away because the other hot chick was into me! That kinda sucked.
That's why you always have to soften the blocker first. Plus they don't if they are going to get raped at this party or what. There is no comfort level you've established with them. Props on the approach though
#2
Two 7s were sitting at a table.
I sit at the table behind them.
Me: "Hey, I got a question for you guys. What are some good bars to check out around the area?"
Them: "Blablabla"
Me: "Oh, cool. I've been to those bars already though with my friends. There isn't a lot going on here really. Unlike where I just moved from."
Them: "Where did you move from?"
Me: "I'm originally from Germany, but I just moved here from California. California is so different...*going into DHV story*
Them: "Oh, cool. We have to get going though. It was nice meeting ya. Have fun!"
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I could feel that it wasn't going anywhere cuz they weren't attracted to me.
Perhaps but again, they asked you were you from...you go into a long story about yourself and you never ask them any personal questions. Where you from? What do you do? How long have you lived here? It doesn't appear like you are showing interest in the ladies and are being sincere.
#3
Saw a hot chick at the bookstore.
Me: *Did the drug dealer thing again*
her: so where are you from?
Me: Germany, but I just moved here from Cali.
her: Oh, really. I'm from Illinois, but I've been to Florida before.
Me: So have you tried surfing then?
her: No.
Right here you have to change the subject to something so identifies with, something she likes. "Oh really, then what do you like to do down in the hot weather? What part of Florida did you go to? What did you do? Yes and no and answers don't help the situation at all.
Me: Well, *going into DHV story*
I don't know what DHV story is, but its a problem since it didn't work last 3 times.
her: It was nice meeting ya, but I gotta get to class.
Me: okay
...a clear rejection here.
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I know what I'm doing wrong though. I have to be more direct during day game because my approaches come off as try hard.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
I understand what you are saying.DonJuan11 said:You got guts for approaching so much, it just seems like you need to be more sincere with these girls.
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
ChrizZ said:#15
Had dinner at the cafeteria today.
An HB9 chick was getting a drink at the soda machine and was there with her friends. I didn't really have a lot of time for the approach.
Me: *Drug dealer thing*
Her: *laughs*, but her friends kinda pull her away after that.
#16
Saw an uber hottie HB10 sitting two tables from me and my buddies in a mini skirt. I had a boner from just looking at her. She was sitting there with 4 of her girlfriends. I stepped over to them...
Me: *Kino shoulder + EC* Are you still single?
Her: Yes...
Me: That's pretty sad especially on Valentine's day. I'm Chris...
Her: I'm Stef *handshake*
Me: So what are we gonna do about it?! Let's do something tonight...
Her: I'm sorry, I'm already going out with my girlfriends...
Me: Where are you guys going to?
Her: Blabla
Me: That's where I'm going, too. I'll see you guys there then!
*eject*
thanks!decadentdestruction said:"applause", good job man.
DonJuan11 said:You got guts for approaching so much, it just seems like you need to be more sincere with these girls.
Ultimate Player said:HELLO
why are you posting advice? do you know what to do to succeed? youre a virgin so get off of this playa's thread and go improve yourself little man
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
The thing I learned about MM is that you shouldn't use canned stuff.TheRealSupreme said:What I want to see is the test of the MM not you running around approaching women Chrisz. You started this as a test of mm and left it behind.
So what is your impression of that style and why did you leave it behind?
I think some of the guys on here would like to know the answer to that question.
Also what is your advice for the fellows on this forum about gaming at this point taking into account they are not all 6'3 or racial issues and all that.
Read: "How to be a Pickup artist" or the "Juggler Method encyclopedia".TheRealSupreme said:Amen brutha! I guess your job is to help these guys discover this. You seem to have your head on straight. Your not into flame wars like this other guy whom I will leave nameless.
Do what ya do dog.
What e-book would you recommed from juggler on communications for the fellas here?
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.