"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I'm 25 shes nineteen starting college and lives at home....

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Sounds like all kinds of issues can come up, but she's mad cool and seems genuinely interested in dating. How do i approach this without having this blow up in my face?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Approach it knowing she is goin to be very fickle no matter how cool she is unitl she at least 22-23

espically when she turns 21, it's a whole new world of guys giving them attention when girls are leagally able to enter clubs

In Australia it's good as they this when they turn 18. And are settled down and sick of the attention when there 21.
 

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go as far as you can and don't give a sh*t about any of it
 

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Yeah once a girl gets into college she will quickly accumulate most of her lifetime's experience in cyack. Don't expect her to be around long, enjoy it while it lasts.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Just an update fellas, looks like she flaked out. Talked to her Monday chatted asked if she wanted to "kick it" a bit on Tuesday. Said she couldn't because she was taking a couple days trip. Asked if she was still up for our little Salsa class and dance on Thursday. She was enthusiastic and said yes.

Called her up today (Wednesday), went to voicemail, left a mssg told her to call me back. Didn't hear anything so I txted her that "its a no go THursday", just to kind of save face. She responded with "?" and i texted back "Salsa." to which she replied "Ahh gotcha." wtf?

This was a cold pick up mind you at a pool hall. I'd say I'm a pretty good looking guy with good conversational skills. So even a guy like me who's not want for dates strikes out.

I'd say the age difference might have freaked her out. I'd say I look like I'm in my late twenties while I"m actually just in my mid twenties.
 

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Yeah, I see your point about being more persistent. Thing is I live in New York, where you meet girls everyday whether you want to or not, so I guess I got used to number closing calling, dating, and nexting very quickly.

Anyone have any insight into girls this age? My impression is that they've got so much going on in life they're very flimsy.

I'll revisit this in a week or two.
 

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Originally posted by KenJones
Sounds like all kinds of issues can come up, but she's mad cool and seems genuinely interested in dating. How do i approach this without having this blow up in my face?
A ton of gold bricks lands in your lap and you're worried that they aren't shiny enough?

Be cool. Just be cool. Remember, you're the commodity, not her.
 
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