"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I'm 25 shes nineteen starting college and lives at home....

KenJones

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Sounds like all kinds of issues can come up, but she's mad cool and seems genuinely interested in dating. How do i approach this without having this blow up in my face?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Approach it knowing she is goin to be very fickle no matter how cool she is unitl she at least 22-23

espically when she turns 21, it's a whole new world of guys giving them attention when girls are leagally able to enter clubs

In Australia it's good as they this when they turn 18. And are settled down and sick of the attention when there 21.
 

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go as far as you can and don't give a sh*t about any of it
 

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Yeah once a girl gets into college she will quickly accumulate most of her lifetime's experience in cyack. Don't expect her to be around long, enjoy it while it lasts.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Just an update fellas, looks like she flaked out. Talked to her Monday chatted asked if she wanted to "kick it" a bit on Tuesday. Said she couldn't because she was taking a couple days trip. Asked if she was still up for our little Salsa class and dance on Thursday. She was enthusiastic and said yes.

Called her up today (Wednesday), went to voicemail, left a mssg told her to call me back. Didn't hear anything so I txted her that "its a no go THursday", just to kind of save face. She responded with "?" and i texted back "Salsa." to which she replied "Ahh gotcha." wtf?

This was a cold pick up mind you at a pool hall. I'd say I'm a pretty good looking guy with good conversational skills. So even a guy like me who's not want for dates strikes out.

I'd say the age difference might have freaked her out. I'd say I look like I'm in my late twenties while I"m actually just in my mid twenties.
 

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Yeah, I see your point about being more persistent. Thing is I live in New York, where you meet girls everyday whether you want to or not, so I guess I got used to number closing calling, dating, and nexting very quickly.

Anyone have any insight into girls this age? My impression is that they've got so much going on in life they're very flimsy.

I'll revisit this in a week or two.
 

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Originally posted by KenJones
Sounds like all kinds of issues can come up, but she's mad cool and seems genuinely interested in dating. How do i approach this without having this blow up in my face?
A ton of gold bricks lands in your lap and you're worried that they aren't shiny enough?

Be cool. Just be cool. Remember, you're the commodity, not her.
 
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