Illustration of increase in SMV due to weight loss

[mrgoodstuff]

I found this interesting study of increase in SMV from 4 all the way to 7.5 or 8 by simply dropping weight over the months.

The person studied happened to be a female who started out at 190+ lb and ended up in the 120's.

https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/08/01/sexual-market-value-boosted-one-shed-pound-at-a-time/

It's the same for men. Accept it if your fat and do something about it. This is one of the best things you can do for yourself.

 

[Yewki]

So it's confirmed. Going from ~40% bf to ~15% makes you look much better.

As a side note god damn she is pale. Last pic reminds me of the character from the movie Powder.

 

[zinc4]

It's true, though. Even 10 pounds makes a HUGE difference in my success, especially with Asian women.

 

[Infern0]

We have some people in the community who will swear blind that game is the be all and end all but they are quite frankly talking out of their ass.

Yes, game helps but it only is part of attracting a woman.

Most women will forgive poor game if the guy is very attractive and in great shape, those same women are unlikely to go home with a fat ass who has great game.

Ideally you want both, but I can tell from experience when I'm in great shape doors open for me, even when i was still afc, all i had to do was go where girls were like clubs or parties and they would basically invite themselves home with me. And yeah I'd end up messing it up pretty soon because I'd do AFC stuff, but point is it made getting in the door a LOT easier

When I was fat, no amount of game really helped me.

Tinder tests have pretty much proved this, a guy on bb.com put pics of a fitness model up and had this hb9 pretty much begging to get smashed and he was purposely acting AFC and said he had autism and no friends and she was still keen.

Looks matter, we live in a superficial world, maximise your looks.

 

[guru1000]

I kid you not when I tell you that a even a small difference of 12 lbs--that is going from 200 lbs at 17% bf to 192 lbs. at 10-11%--makes a head-turning difference.

Yes, body fat percentage matters.

 

[Infern0]

Here's how it goes on average approaches (I've been all 3 states)

Fat- girls look revolted at you, act annoyed that you approached, have to game incredibly well to have a small <5% success rate

Skinny/average- girls act not that fussed, maybe slightly bored, you need pretty good game to get <15% success rate

Ripped/muscular(not to roids level)- girls approach you, are enthusiastic, laugh at your **** jokes and ask what you are doing after this. >50% success rate

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Here's how it goes on average approaches (I've been all 3 states)

Fat- girls look revolted at you, act annoyed that you approached, have to game incredibly well to have a small <5% success rate

Skinny/average- girls act not that fussed, maybe slightly bored, you need pretty good game to get <15% success rate

Ripped/muscular(not to roids level)- girls approach you, are enthusiastic, laugh at your **** jokes and ask what you are doing after this. >50% success rate

This is reality... When you are fat a lot of times you are "invisible", and like they are saying every 10 lbs makes a noticeable difference.

 

[Infern0]

This is reality... When you are fat a lot of times you are "invisible", and like they are saying every 10 lbs makes a noticeable difference.

Its common sense, men are more visual than women but not by that much.

Is some fat whale comes up to us, even if she's got the best personality in the world we probably just aren't going to be interested.

I think the only people who refute that being in shape makes a difference at lazy guys with 11" arms

 

[ubercat]

Thanks guys was feeling lazy. Now it's workout time

 

[CMNILS87]

Look at Chris Pratt. He went from funny loveable fatty on parks and rec. drops 40 lbs, gets shredded, new clothes/haircut. Now he's an A-list leading man. Best part is he retained the smart ass funny/quippy attitude. Definition of a DJ if you ask me

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Look at Chris Pratt. He went from funny loveable fatty on parks and rec. drops 40 lbs, gets shredded, new clothes/haircut. Now he's an A-list leading man. Best part is he retained the smart ass funny/quippy attitude. Definition of a DJ if you ask me

Just look at it from the raw meat aspect, hot is hot. It will rise their temperature if its what they need to see. Now you just have to control what you say and do.

 

[dustmuffin]

She is definitely hot. I like the pale skin.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Here's how it goes on average approaches (I've been all 3 states)

Fat- girls look revolted at you, act annoyed that you approached, have to game incredibly well to have a small <5% success rate

Skinny/average- girls act not that fussed, maybe slightly bored, you need pretty good game to get <15% success rate

Ripped/muscular(not to roids level)- girls approach you, are enthusiastic, laugh at your **** jokes and ask what you are doing after this. >50% success rate

The "eye candy" size for these females is somewhere between an NBA Pointguard and a NFL defensive back, similar musculature. It's the same size male strippers use, because it is a popular size regarded as eye candy by the ladies.

 

[Dust 2 Dust]

What about thin ugly girls/guys?

Attraction is 80% from the chin up and that's why Michael Phelps coudn't get a date despite having the body of a greek god. Just type "Michael Phelps is ugly" in Google for further perspective.

If you're not handsome then getting a nice body will only improve your results marginally (no more than 5%). This is why anytime you go into a nightclub you see buff guys standing around in a circle jerk with each other while the women go home with average rich guys like me after I do the magic wallet maneuver

.

While they spent hours in the gym everyday and then went home to spank their monkeys I was amassing 3 million dollars. Start your own business and once you've made your first million dollars you can be like me and date playboy models.

 

[Infern0]

What about thin ugly girls/guys?

Attraction is 80% from the chin up and that's why Michael Phelps coudn't get a date despite having the body of a greek god. Just type "Michael Phelps is ugly" in Google for further perspective.

If you're not handsome then getting a nice body will only improve your results marginally (no more than 5%). This is why anytime you go into a nightclub you see buff guys standing around in a circle jerk with each other while the women go home with average rich guys like me after I do the magic wallet maneuver

.

While they spent hours in the gym everyday and then went home to spank their monkeys I was amassing 3 million dollars. Start your own business and once you've made your first million dollars you can be like me and date playboy models.

Well I don't have an ugly face, so I can't relate to Phelps problems (he's also not that built, lean yes, but in a shirt he doesn't look impressive) I spend 45 minutes in the gym 4-5 times a week and I don't stand in a circle jerk or go home and spank the monkey.

Congrats on the 3 million dollars though, gives you a nice excuse to be lazy and fat

 

[mrgoodstuff]

What about thin ugly girls/guys?

Attraction is 80% from the chin up and that's why Michael Phelps coudn't get a date despite having the body of a greek god. Just type "Michael Phelps is ugly" in Google for further perspective.

If you're not handsome then getting a nice body will only improve your results marginally (no more than 5%). This is why anytime you go into a nightclub you see buff guys standing around in a circle jerk with each other while the women go home with average rich guys like me after I do the magic wallet maneuver

.

While they spent hours in the gym everyday and then went home to spank their monkeys I was amassing 3 million dollars. Start your own business and once you've made your first million dollars you can be like me and date playboy models.

There are a lot of male butterfaces who do well with the ladies. These are guys with average or below face but stunning body and strong game.

It's dangerous to just have the money and not the body, because you really do want them physically attracted as well as attracted to your motivation for making money.

 

[Infern0]

There are a lot of male butterfaces who do well with the ladies. These are guys with average or below face but stunning body and strong game.

It's dangerous to just have the money and not the body, because you really do want them physically attracted as well as attracted to your motivation for making money.

Waving cash might be alright for getting narcissistic gold digger types in, and as long as you pump and dump them, all good.

LTR or god forbid marry one though and o guarentee she's getting dp'd by Tyrone and Jamal on the side while Poindexter is showering her with gifts and $$$

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Waving cash might be alright for getting narcissistic gold digger types in, and as long as you pump and dump them, all good.

LTR or god forbid marry one though and o guarentee she's getting dp'd by Tyrone and Jamal on the side while Poindexter is showering her with gifts and $$$

If you don't fill her physical attraction side, she almost most likely will be looking at ones who do trigger that in her. And eventually she will setup a system where you get maintenance sex to no sex and she gets her physical side filled from Tyrone. DP is no guarantee, but if that's her thing she will.

 

[Infern0]

If you don't fill her physical attraction side, she almost most likely will be looking at ones who do trigger that in her. And eventually she will setup a system where you get maintenance sex to no sex and she gets her physical side filled from Tyrone. DP is no guarantee, but if that's her thing she will.

yeah that's exactly what i'm saying.

Tyrone and Jamal were just for dramatic effect.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

yeah that's exactly what i'm saying.

Tyrone and Jamal were just for dramatic effect.

I think we nailed this particular portion of attraction. Physical attraction is HUGE, HUGE HUGE, it can not be ignored! Think about women you cant stand but your still super attracted to them because of their bodies? Women have it the same way...