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Darn! I wanted to know why they broke up!

I'm guessing she wanted something that he wouldnt give her (co habitation? Marriage? Kids?) So she decided to threaten walking away and he called her bluff.

That's a double whammy rejection scenario for her right there..... Him saying "No, you can't have X and see if I care if you walk away!"

So she was trying to erase the rejected feelings by validating her desirability via @Glassguy , aka emotionally responding to a painful situation.

I wonder which one of them reached out first

Meh, it won't last, unless one of them caved on the original point of disagreement
 

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Oh she might even tell him about you to create competition anxiety, in fact in the past year no less than 3 women did this to me/with me. One ended up rebounding with me then monkey branching elsewhere, one I blocked bc it got annoying as hell, one is rebounding with another dude but using me to make him jealous, and I'll be next man up afterwards. Literally no reason their boyfriends should know I exist.
but is not that the main reason she jump on another guy that soon? to make the ex jealous, and to feed her ego? then again i'm not trusty on people the few times I had woman going after me was more, i'm too busy to waste time on you, so meh
 

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but is not that the main reason she jump on another guy that soon? to make the ex jealous, and to feed her ego? then again i'm not trusty on people the few times I had woman going after me was more, i'm too busy to waste time on you, so meh
Depends on if it's a true monkey branch or just an ego thing. In these cases it was ego in two of them and monkey branch in one of them. When I said no reason the Ex should know, I meant no GOOD reason.
 
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You bring up a very good point that has been echoed for a long time on here:

A woman is not going to walk away from a LTR on a whim. She has put some serious thought and consideration on doing so for some time. More than likely, she already has several possible men lined up when she makes her exit.

It baffles me that some guys are so shocked when their GFs dump them out of the blue. Its never "out of the blue". They must be living under a rock in terms of not being able to see the signs that she is losing interest, or they start chasing hardcore when they do notice the signs which makes her run away even faster.
My exwife planned her departure for over 1 year before she actually moved out or made any actual statement that she wasn't interested anymore. Yes the signs are always there, its up to guys to learn pick up on them and act accordingly. Unfortunately most learn the hard way and experience becomes the best teacher.
 

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My exwife planned her departure for over 1 year before she actually moved out or made any actual statement that she wasn't interested anymore. Yes the signs are always there, its up to guys to learn pick up on them and act accordingly. Unfortunately most learn the hard way and experience becomes the best teacher.
The signs aren't actionable really. I mean even when you pre-empt they just go on best behavior for a while. I guess it ends more quickly when you can read the tea leaves which is always a good thing. In the marriage context of course you can financially pre-empt.
 

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Darn! I wanted to know why they broke up!

I'm guessing she wanted something that he wouldnt give her (co habitation? Marriage? Kids?) So she decided to threaten walking away and he called her bluff.

That's a double whammy rejection scenario for her right there..... Him saying "No, you can't have X and see if I care if you walk away!"

So she was trying to erase the rejected feelings by validating her desirability via @Glassguy , aka emotionally responding to a painful situation.

I wonder which one of them reached out first

Meh, it won't last, unless one of them caved on the original point of disagreement
Eh I was looking forward to a few drinks, her blowing me and then giving her a baby shower on her tummy tonight so I guess both of us lost out. I dont get the pleasure of taking advantage of fvcking her and you may never know why they broke up lol.

She did say that she was tired of his shyte last night and she had to make him leave (she has her own place near me). So long as I dont lose interest I'll end up banging her sooner or later because what they have isnt going to last. She has already texted me with more apologies and trying to explain. I told her that I really didnt care but that she was probably right that it's too soon for us to meet up. That got her hamster spinning and provoked more messages from her. I just ignore her request for an explanation of what I meant by that and told her to reach out and if I'm still interested maybe we can hang out later.

At the end of the day, I truly just dont give a d@mn. That's the beauty of my personality lol.
 

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Eh I was looking forward to a few drinks, her blowing me and then giving her a baby shower on her tummy tonight so I guess both of us lost out. I dont get the pleasure of taking advantage of fvcking her and you may never know why they broke up lol.

She did say that she was tired of his shyte last night and she had to make him leave (she has her own place near me). So long as I dont lose interest I'll end up banging her sooner or later because what they have isnt going to last. She has already texted me with more apologies and trying to explain. I told her that I really didnt care but that she was probably right that it's too soon for us to meet up. That got her hamster spinning and provoked more messages from her. I just ignore her request for an explanation of what I meant by that and told her to reach out and if I'm still interested maybe we can hang out later.

At the end of the day, I truly just dont give a d@mn. That's the beauty of my personality lol.
And #BLAM you continue to hold frame!
Lol

If she's still apologizing to u, whatever they have is going to be short lived
 

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And #BLAM you continue to hold frame!
Lol

If she's still apologizing to u, whatever they have is going to be short lived
I learned to always hold frame. The result of truly being outcome indifferent.

I'd say you're right. It's a ticking time bomb in her relationship.
 

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However I will follow my policy and if she reaches out again she will only get an invitation to my place for drinks. Little does she know that she wont get a "date" offer again.
 

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she is telling me how her and the BF just broke up.

But to all of you non red pill guys on here, as well as you red pillers who are in a LTR, to understand how women's loyalty can be and how quickly things can change. I am friends with this chick on FB and IG and both are literally littered with pics of her and this chiropractor. They broke up yesterday and she is ready to hang out with me asap. She probably cant get her quarters out quick enough for spins on the c0ck carousel.

Their loyalty can and will change quickly. Swallow that red pill and dont look back.
Bro I don’t get this. What does breaking up with her bf and wanting to hang out with you the next day have to do with a woman’s loyalty or red pill?

She didn’t cheat, she didn’t break trust, she didn’t record him, she didn’t ask for half his money. She just wanted to hang out with you after she broke up with him because she was vulnerable. What guy wouldn’t do the same thing?

Am I missing something or is this a red pill female imperative thing that’s over my head?
 

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Bro I don’t get this. What does breaking up with her bf and wanting to hang out with you the next day have to do with a woman’s loyalty or red pill?

She didn’t cheat, she didn’t break trust, she didn’t record him, she didn’t ask for half his money. She just wanted to hang out with you after she broke up with him because she was vulnerable. What guy wouldn’t do the same thing?

Am I missing something or is this a red pill female imperative thing that’s over my head?
You read the entire post and replies and you're missing what exactly?

I never said that I'm not a man who will act on the situation. The post was more about what women are capable of. Do you think this BF really saw this coming? I don't.
 

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My exwife planned her departure for over 1 year before she actually moved out or made any actual statement that she wasn't interested anymore. Yes the signs are always there, its up to guys to learn pick up on them and act accordingly. Unfortunately most learn the hard way and experience becomes the best teacher.
What the hell could you have done about it? From what you said you left her in the dust in how will you did in life afterwards.
 

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Bro I don’t get this. What does breaking up with her bf and wanting to hang out with you the next day have to do with a woman’s loyalty or red pill?

She didn’t cheat, she didn’t break trust, she didn’t record him, she didn’t ask for half his money. She just wanted to hang out with you after she broke up with him because she was vulnerable. What guy wouldn’t do the same thing?

Am I missing something or is this a red pill female imperative thing that’s over my head?
Yes you're missing something. You have about as much experience dating women as sazc does.
 

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The post was more about what women are capable of. Do you think this BF really saw this coming? I don't.
Oh I see OK. I didn’t get that from the post.

It’s not that shocking. Every time a woman comes on hard you know something is up.
 

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Here's my two cents on the topic. Expecting someone to pine away for someone else is a bit unrealistic. I've seen women do as Glassguy observes...and I've seen men do it too. I know men who have broken up with a girfriend and gotten laid no issues the exact same night with someone else. Hell I'm dating someone who has been known to break up with the express purpose of fvcking someone else. Only to go back and reconcile the relationship. Does that build loyalty and trust? Hardly. But people do it. Glassguy's point is don't be surprised that your special snowflake is not pining away for you. Understand true human nature and understand the actual reality you are functioning within.

The higher value or higher SMV a person is the more prone to this they are BECAUSE THE MARKET AFFORDS highly desirable people myriad options. That is true of both men and women.

Also, people do often check out early and the break up is a formality and people do string each other along. I've done it, Glassguy has done it, plenty of people have done it. There are plenty of reasons why. Also bear in mind that there are two (2) consenting adults in that type of arrangement. The stringer is isn't any more at fault than the person who allows him or herself to be strung along. Perhaps it's indicative of an imbalance of SMV, but it still takes two people to tango.

I think this post is a reality check. I don't know that passing judgement on someone because they want to explore other options is wise. For all we know the woman in question just wanted a little validation that SHE is still desirable. I'd say the answer is yes to that question. Is the boyfriend in question doing all he can to lead the relationship and provide value such that the chick will stay and decline her other (perhaps objectively better) options? Probably not. But we can't know those answers either. All we can see is the behavior. Drawing conclusions as to the rationale (however logical or illogical it might be) behind the behavior gets into seriously presumptive territory. Glassguy is probably in the best seat to guess internal motivations, but even then its a crap shoot.
 
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Hell I'm dating someone who has been known to break up with the express purpose of fvcking someone else. Only to go back and reconcile the relationship.
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The stringer is isn't any more at fault than the person who allows him or herself to be strung along.
Sociopath logic.
 

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Sociopath logic.
Are you red pill or aren't you? If red pill is about dealing in reality then how is any of this a surprise? The guy I'm seeing and I know a lot about game. We chat about things concerning game with some degree of frequency and we always have. He's juggled as many as 7 women simultaneously in the past. He found it expensive and exhausting, both mentally and physically. I want him to be who he is, whatever that is. Has that led to some amusing conversations? Uncomfortable conversations? It has. And that goes both ways. But it has also allowed him to reveal himself and be known to someone else. Has he spun other plates during the time we've been dating? I expect so although he's loathe to admit it outright.

He's a narcissist. So to am I but I'd argue to a lesser degree (of course I'd say that, LMAO...maybe I'm just a more self aware narcisstist - hard to say, lol). We've had prickly conversations about that too.

My point, and Glassguy's point, is simply UNDERSTAND THE LANDSCAPE you find yourself in. If you understand the landscape you are far better equipped to cope with things that crop up. You are far less likely to get blindsided by something you never saw coming. That is the essence of red pill thinking. You can still enjoy yourself, enjoy your life etc., just know the landscape you are in. Don't deceive yourself.

Be a realist but also allow for the possibility that people might actually surprise you in a good way. But be fine (never bitter) if they don't.
 

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Are you red pill or aren't you? If red pill is about dealing in reality then how is any of this a surprise?
It's no surprise, I just reject and oppose it as some sort of moral truth.
He's a narcissist. So to am I but I'd argue to a lesser degree (of course I'd say that, LMAO...maybe I'm just a more self aware narcisstist - hard to say, lol).
Yes I know, I'm fairly certain I pointed that out a few times.
My point, and Glassguy's point, is simply UNDERSTAND THE LANDSCAPE you find yourself in. If you understand the landscape you are far better equipped to cope with things that crop up.
I agree, but our way to cope is to judge and remove such women from our reality for anything other than the shortest term fling.

What you are seeking is our blessing, which you will never get from me, anyway.
 
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I'm dating someone who has been known to break up with the express purpose of fvcking someone else. Only to go back and reconcile the relationship.
The stringer is isn't any more at fault than the person who allows him or herself to be strung along.
I wish there could be an easier way for those of us who deeply value honesty, integrity and being straightforward, to simply date and partner up with others who are like-minded, while leaving those who think nothing of deeply deceiving people, to only play and interact with others of their own kind.
 
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