You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Exactly lolOh right, I forgot, not thinking about fukking men = suppressed homosexuality. Good one!
Gay for a day turned queer for a year right about here.That jaw line, those pillow lips and that smile... Goddamn if I wouldn't totally suck his d*ck.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Cos that's boring. We all find lots of men handsome.Woahh...
Should rename title of this board to "Anything and EVERYTHING Else".
Wtf OP. Why couldn't you just say what males do you think are handsome or some sh*t. Why'd you have to suggest we d!ck another man down. I would never..
So you can't tell a handsome guy from an ugly one?No, actually, we all don’t.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
I think most guys find males repulsive from a sexual standpoint. I think this actually feeds some of the inner game problems that goes on, and how some guys don't feel like they have enough to offer a woman. I mean, from my point of view anyway, women (well, many women) are so attractive compared to males, sometimes I wonder what it is they see in us.No, actually, we all don’t.
Well, I definitely don't think they idealize their own bodies, that's why they don't respect guys who are overwhelmed by their beauty. They are also keenly aware of their competition: Yes, they're hot, but there's probably a hotter girl in the next room, or a younger, prettier version about to hit the scene. They are biological creatures just as we are, and as you say, have their own unique brand of "yuckyness". But I also think they are aware of their physical attractiveness, and will use it to their advantage. Women's bodies are just ridiculous (in a good way), they are definitely sexy with the way they kind of stick out in all the right places lol.I think part of it is that we idealize female bodies, while they don't idealize their own bodies. Therefore they don't see themselves as cleaner and in any way superior physically, except that they know they can create an illusion with makeup and clothing. When you get right down to it, women are just as "yucky" as men, and I'm pretty sure they know it, even if subconsciously.
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Interesting discussion. I know men who can appreciate another man’s physical attractiveness...I have one male friend who actually will have sex with an another man once in a while...he’s handsome as hell and says he’s 90% into women & 10% into men.Yes, I sometimes tell my girlfriend how repulsive we men find each other, and that it's hard to see what women see in us "filthy beasts".
I think part of it is that we idealize female bodies, while they don't idealize their own bodies. Therefore they don't see themselves as cleaner and in any way superior physically, except that they know they can create an illusion with makeup and clothing. When you get right down to it, women are just as "yucky" as men, and I'm pretty sure they know it, even if subconsciously.
For us, women's makeup and clothing and figure blinds us to their "yuckiness", and for them, our toughness and confidence and boldness blinds them to our "yuckiness".
I also have a theory that our Creator instilled in us men a natural physical repulsiveness toward each other in order to keep us from being attracted to each other so that the human race would carry on.
All we can do is speculate, I suppose. I'd be interested to hear what @BeExcellent has to say about this. Paging...
Those men weren't born gay....they just got sucked into it.men go gay mode cuz of bs and rejections they get from femoids
I can look at some men and I can tell that women would find them attractive. But then I will see some other guy that I know women rave over, and I can't figure out what the heck is so special about him.Of course I can recognize a handsome man and I openly comment on it when I feel like it.
People often mention that the Greeks and Romans appreciated the male body as a work of art, when this kind of thing comes up.And in spite of what Elaine said on Seinfeld (which always makes me laugh), the male body is a work of art, too. Maybe not in the same way, but Michelangelo's David is the first obvious example of thousands that come to mind.
For what it’s worth I think the male physique is gorgeous. I like hair on a built chest,in fact I find gray hair on the chest dead sexy; defined arms, a six pack and soccer legs. God bless futbol. I love a soccer player’s physique best. I also love stubble on a face with masculine bone structure. I love the expression on my guy’s face in the midst of passion. Hot. I love to feel petite and protected by his physical presence. Very very sexy.I can look at some men and I can tell that women would find them attractive. But then I will see some other guy that I know women rave over, and I can't figure out what the heck is so special about him.
On the other hand, a lot of women that have been declared sex symbols, I don't find attractive either. Pamela Anderson, for one.
People often mention that the Greeks and Romans appreciated the male body as a work of art, when this kind of thing comes up.
As for what Elaine said, I'm not sure exactly how true it is, but I definitely think there is some truth in there.
I also notice @BeExcellent didn't really address the "Is the male body sexy" question. Although she did point out that gay men appear to think so.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.