Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Exactly lolOh right, I forgot, not thinking about fukking men = suppressed homosexuality. Good one!
Gay for a day turned queer for a year right about here.That jaw line, those pillow lips and that smile... Goddamn if I wouldn't totally suck his d*ck.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Cos that's boring. We all find lots of men handsome.Woahh...
Should rename title of this board to "Anything and EVERYTHING Else".
Wtf OP. Why couldn't you just say what males do you think are handsome or some sh*t. Why'd you have to suggest we d!ck another man down. I would never..
So you can't tell a handsome guy from an ugly one?No, actually, we all don’t.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
I think most guys find males repulsive from a sexual standpoint. I think this actually feeds some of the inner game problems that goes on, and how some guys don't feel like they have enough to offer a woman. I mean, from my point of view anyway, women (well, many women) are so attractive compared to males, sometimes I wonder what it is they see in us.No, actually, we all don’t.
Well, I definitely don't think they idealize their own bodies, that's why they don't respect guys who are overwhelmed by their beauty. They are also keenly aware of their competition: Yes, they're hot, but there's probably a hotter girl in the next room, or a younger, prettier version about to hit the scene. They are biological creatures just as we are, and as you say, have their own unique brand of "yuckyness". But I also think they are aware of their physical attractiveness, and will use it to their advantage. Women's bodies are just ridiculous (in a good way), they are definitely sexy with the way they kind of stick out in all the right places lol.I think part of it is that we idealize female bodies, while they don't idealize their own bodies. Therefore they don't see themselves as cleaner and in any way superior physically, except that they know they can create an illusion with makeup and clothing. When you get right down to it, women are just as "yucky" as men, and I'm pretty sure they know it, even if subconsciously.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Interesting discussion. I know men who can appreciate another man’s physical attractiveness...I have one male friend who actually will have sex with an another man once in a while...he’s handsome as hell and says he’s 90% into women & 10% into men.Yes, I sometimes tell my girlfriend how repulsive we men find each other, and that it's hard to see what women see in us "filthy beasts".
I think part of it is that we idealize female bodies, while they don't idealize their own bodies. Therefore they don't see themselves as cleaner and in any way superior physically, except that they know they can create an illusion with makeup and clothing. When you get right down to it, women are just as "yucky" as men, and I'm pretty sure they know it, even if subconsciously.
For us, women's makeup and clothing and figure blinds us to their "yuckiness", and for them, our toughness and confidence and boldness blinds them to our "yuckiness".
I also have a theory that our Creator instilled in us men a natural physical repulsiveness toward each other in order to keep us from being attracted to each other so that the human race would carry on.
All we can do is speculate, I suppose. I'd be interested to hear what @BeExcellent has to say about this. Paging...
Those men weren't born gay....they just got sucked into it.men go gay mode cuz of bs and rejections they get from femoids
I can look at some men and I can tell that women would find them attractive. But then I will see some other guy that I know women rave over, and I can't figure out what the heck is so special about him.Of course I can recognize a handsome man and I openly comment on it when I feel like it.
People often mention that the Greeks and Romans appreciated the male body as a work of art, when this kind of thing comes up.And in spite of what Elaine said on Seinfeld (which always makes me laugh), the male body is a work of art, too. Maybe not in the same way, but Michelangelo's David is the first obvious example of thousands that come to mind.
For what it’s worth I think the male physique is gorgeous. I like hair on a built chest,in fact I find gray hair on the chest dead sexy; defined arms, a six pack and soccer legs. God bless futbol. I love a soccer player’s physique best. I also love stubble on a face with masculine bone structure. I love the expression on my guy’s face in the midst of passion. Hot. I love to feel petite and protected by his physical presence. Very very sexy.I can look at some men and I can tell that women would find them attractive. But then I will see some other guy that I know women rave over, and I can't figure out what the heck is so special about him.
On the other hand, a lot of women that have been declared sex symbols, I don't find attractive either. Pamela Anderson, for one.
People often mention that the Greeks and Romans appreciated the male body as a work of art, when this kind of thing comes up.
As for what Elaine said, I'm not sure exactly how true it is, but I definitely think there is some truth in there.
I also notice @BeExcellent didn't really address the "Is the male body sexy" question. Although she did point out that gay men appear to think so.
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.