"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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If you like David DeAngelo's material, what other material is similar or recommended?

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I think that reading different e-books help you find what works for you, and I have found that David D's stuff suits me best. But if I start reading stuff by Mystery and Ross Jeffry and the other guys, that would probably cause a lack of congruity that would be apparent.

What other approaches or styles are congruent with David D?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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David X. I personally don't recommend David DeAngelo, I got very very very bad results trying out his methods, though it might also be because his style just doesn't suit me at all.
 

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The_Reaper said:
I think that reading different e-books help you find what works for you, and I have found that David D's stuff suits me best. But if I start reading stuff by Mystery and Ross Jeffry and the other guys, that would probably cause a lack of congruity that would be apparent.

What other approaches or styles are congruent with David D?
I recommend instead of reading yet more material on how to get girls, you actually go out and get them in real life.
 

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War Against Betaism said:
David X. I personally don't recommend David DeAngelo, I got very very very bad results trying out his methods, though it might also be because his style just doesn't suit me at all.
I'm intrigued by the "very very very bad results" - did you overdo CF and get slapped or what??
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Smack said:
I recommend instead of reading yet more material on how to get girls, you actually go out and get them in real life.
I'm taking some time off getting them. Long story.
 

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The_Reaper said:
I'm intrigued by the "very very very bad results" - did you overdo CF and get slapped or what??

The very very very part thing was an overexaggeration, but it just didn't work out for me. I got some women, we talked for a bit but with David DeAngelo's methods I wasn't getting the woman I wanted. I was getting these skanky lowkey crazy hoes that I would get in pointless arguments with. I endorsed instead Carlos Xumos' advice in his book The Secrets to the Alpha Male along with the advice of my friends who people here would categorize as naturals and I started to get the women I wanted.
 

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"Book of Pook." Pook is a smart, smart man. He changed my life.
 

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DeAngelo is a chump in my opinion. Just another salesman. Some novel lines, but nothing that can compare to stuff like ->

SEARCH - Pook, Interceptor, Karma Sutra, STR8Up, Victory Unlimited on this board. ( These posts will help you refocus your mind, body and spirit and have them enter into perfect unison to unleash your potential upon the world.)

Listen - Tom Leykis, info in sig. ( Help you get more a$$ for less money. And I haven't slept with anything below an 8 in the last 3 months. Leykis helps you maintain focus and drive towards success.)
 
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