AlphaWhiskey said:
Also, I'd like to chime in on BB's alleged fraud due to the "evidence" you guys have unearthed.
I am a business owner as well. I will tell you right now that if you a ratio of 50 extremely satisfied customers to 1 dissatisfied, here is what usually happens: The 50 satisfied people are pleased with your service and move on with their lives. They often aren't motivated to jump online and write a whole page on 10 different sites about how great your service is.
However...that one dissatisfied customer will often as not do everything in their power to discredit you and tell everyone they know (offline or on) about how sh!tty your business is, etc, etc.
This something that anyone who has actually run a business knows to be true.
EDIT: ^Well speak of the devil, haha. Welcome back man, glad you're alright.
I do not like to talk about my business ventures here beucase they have nothing to do with women but **** kjnowing how i act here shoudl telly ou all you need to know about how i deal with clients. i don't put up with bull **** from clients and if you are going to act an ass you can fvck off. and you are correct, in this line of business all it takes is one bad apple, one client saying he is going to use the BBB to get you to do what you want him to do
**** i can show you better than i can tell you. and this is the first and only time i am going to do this. i haven't even read the last 14 pages i dont' know what the F is going on
(my real life name is Brandon, technically it's not that's my birth name i changed my name in 2005 to something totally different beucase there was someone who was born the same day and had the exact same first and last name as me that got me trouble every time i pulled over but for business reasons i still go by this name)
I got a client. client is a graphic guy, paid us to do some programming. we did it, the client has not paid for the end result. now the client is trying to make it sound like, we are harassing him and that we did not do what is asked, and is even went so far to call the BBB yet when he emails me he ackowleges that he owes money and provides reasons why he can't pay and even wants more work done
this is what he emails me (just download the pictures)
https://rapidshare.com/files/3044110025/scott1.bmp
https://rapidshare.com/files/3513952993/scott2.png
https://rapidshare.com/files/1512773406/scott3.png
this is what he emails the BBB
https://rapidshare.com/files/811920891/danielle.png
lol not only is he lying through his teeth, he's going on the offensive to make me look like the bad guy when he knows he fvcked up. he just doesn't have the money to pay and to get the entire thing crushed and to get me to leave him alone he tries to say I am harassing him and that the work was never done (yet has problem paying for full work 100% in advance and even states twice in the emails that he has to get the rest of the info to us to finish.) and keep in mind this site was done at the end of may it's august.
so yeah,b elieve none of what you hear and half of what you see. i got smart about a year ago and now i just take written testimnonals from clients and take snap shots of them. this is how backbreaker normallyr olles
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy99/ghostzapper/jasonfeedback.png
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy99/ghostzapper/3-1.jpg
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy99/ghostzapper/2-2.jpg
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy99/ghostzapper/stevenfeedbacjk.jpg
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy99/ghostzapper/johnconfirmation.jpg
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy99/ghostzapper/1-1.jpg
and i have about 50 of those. lol i've even ahd graphic guys in the past try to lie to clients when i used them as references and said trhey were not happy wtih the work and tried to upsell their work, so i stringliy just do it like that now.
but anyway, that's that. don't like to talk business here but you are going to be sad if you are trying to paint me as some type of fraud. **** i am in a great mood here is some of our work. knock yourself out. just to show you i'm not pulling the **** off the internet i will even givey ou admin access.
we code and design all this in house
http://adyok.com/pivonote (Custom Graphic Design, Social Networking, PHP/MySQL)
http://adyok.com/pivonote/admin
username: admin
http://adyok.com/craft/ (Graphic Design, PHP/MySQL, Ecommerce)
http://adyok.com/craft/admin
username: admin
password: admin
http://adyok.com/17181/intro (Graphic Design, Adult, PHP/MySQL, Ecommerce)
http://adyok.com/17181/admin-panel
username: admin
password
lol that's on our demo sever don't bother asking for a pw
http://adyok.com/18005/ (Graphic Design, Adult, PHP/MySQL, Ecommerce)
http://adyok.com/18005/admin-panel
username: admin
password: admin
http://adyok.com/golf/ (Custom Graphic Design, Content Management System, PHP/MySQL)
http://adyok.com/golf/admin-panel
username: admin
password: admin
this is the site from the dude above who is complainign to the BBB.
http://adyok.com/danielle/ (Ecommerce, PHP/MySQL)
http://adyok.com/danielle/admin-panel
username: admin
password: admin
if htat's not a done site i don't know what is. the only thing the site does not have is the ecommerce hookup and that's beucase the client wont' give it to us, then every time we ask for payment he will say he will pay when it's done. chicken and egg
http://adyok.com/tsn (Graphic Design, PHP/MySQL)
http://adyok.com/tsn/admin-panel
username: admin
password: admin
this is what we are working on now, about 40% done
http://adyok.com/cutie/
http://adyok.com/cutie/admin-panel
username: admin
password: admin
this as well
http://brandicontact.com/bret/
http://brandicontact.com/bret/admin-panel
username: admin
password: admin
the above is about 90% done i believe. should be done in the next few days. all 100% designed and programmed in house.
and there is much more but i'm tired.
anyway, the point is if you don't or haven't ran a business, you seriously have no idea. it's like guy's who think all women are kind and never lie and are so sweet. most clients are looking for any way possible to get over on you and have zero qualms lying, cheating or stealing to do so.
ps- warrior when / if you can do design work like the 17181 job or the pivot note job or the 18005 job holla at ya boy. we dont' do a **** load of work, but the work we do is top class. i don't put my name on anything that is ****y or half assed.