"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
If fat girls always check me out what does that tell me about myself?
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Quit leaving the house with pizza stuck to your shirt HA!Demystify said:
Well all girls have the same attraction mechanism, fat girls are just more deprived so they will be more direct about their attraction. It means you're appealing to all girls, fat girls are just being upfront about it.
DarthAngel707
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
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Adma said:
Actually, most fat girls think they deserve to be with a male model. So take it as a compliment from the obese hypocrites.
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Demystify said:
Fat girls check out the same guys that cute fit girls check out... BUT fat girls will often be easier to F cause demand for them is lower (due to their obesity) so they are less picky...
Fat girls are more open and forward cause often they have to do extra work to get men to F them... Cute chicks are also checking you out but they hide it so you don't know so that if you do approach them you have no clue they like you yet and they can play the games they love soo much...
So this says that women find you attractive which is good...
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
MikeYikes122
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In all seriousness, it's probably a good sign that fat chicks are checking you out. If they're real obvious in doing so, like they eye fvck you when you walk in the room or they deep throat a banana while looking directly at you, then it's likely that they're coming on strongly to you because you're a good looking dude or you have a high amount of social proof. Fat chicks and unattractive girls have to be more obvious with their attraction when they are interested in a guy who is good looking or has a lot of value. If they don't show direct and obvious signs of interest, there's no way they will get approached by a guy who they perceive of being high value.
A hot chick expects a hot guy to approach her, so she'll give IOIs that are more thinly-veiled and tougher to pick up on. She'll look at him from across the room out of the corner of her eye, she'll make EC at him then look at the ground, etc.
It's natural selection at work. The guy who is legitimately of higher value is strong enough that he doesn't need strong IOIs like the ones the fat girl gives. He is confident enough to approach without them.
Fat chicks and ugly chicks are willing to really put themselves out there pretty hard, while cute girls will be obvious with their signs of interest, but they won't be too obvious. Really hot girls sometimes won't even give signs that they're interested, and when they do they will be very slight. This is why it's best to just approach and assume interest, even if you're not getting IOIs.
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In2theGame
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I like this response because its true. However, how many times have we all come across a Fat girl who thinks she deserves a HG10 (hot guy)? The Nerve of these girls sometimes is increadible.DonGorgon said:
In2theGame
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Mike layed it down pretty nicely with this response.MikeYikes122 said:
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
If you're skinny it might be the reason.
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Adma said:
Something like that. It's a classic case of getting hit on by the notties when what you want is a hottie. At some point when you get your **** together you'll start getting approached by women. What you'll notice is that most of the times they're LSE/UGs. The reason for this is now you're an attractive alpha stud and they want you. Because they are LSE/UGs they have nothing to lose so they actually approach and throw themselves at you. The HBs are attracted as well, but because they have such high self esteem and options they don't bother approaching, not to mention they still have pick of the litter and tons of guys hitting on them.
Bottom line: you're doing something right and it's time to change gears and start working on the hotties. Just don't expect them to throw themselves at you like the notties.
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hahahahaha... mustard yellow shirt... reppedCOD said:
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.