"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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if a girl is ltr material how long should u wait to fvck?

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Ive been hanging out with this girl probably like 3 times so far. 1st time we kissed. 2nd time did nothing, 3rd time held hands basically the whole night slept together but i was just like (in my head) too drunk to do anything right now so i didnt want to bust a move i could tell she wanted bad though. i think shes the type of girl that expects guys to make a move and fvck her the first chance they get, but i could hold off. Is it bad that I havent made an good faith attempt to bone her? I do want this girl as a gf so i dont want to come off as that guy who will bone the first opportunity and i want to make her wait for just cause i can tell she wants it. i know theres a line drawn on how long i hold off when and if we hang out again i will probably bone her. but am i in the wrong if i want an ltr with her too not immediatley bone her?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Big Eee Zee

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this may be good. Make it seem that you want her, make c&f, kino, but dont fvck her yet. she will be confused, and most likely more interested. build the interest up, and then make the sex a "special thing". make it real romantic, and meaningful (at least make her think it is). then she will be hooked, and not go anywhere. You'll learn that you can never stop manipulating her emotions, even in an LTR. the entire time you will have to be in control, but dont let her know that you are. Its a subliminal thing. being able to manipulate women, most especially their emotions, is important in every relationship you have with them, from friend to LTRs.
 

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You don't really know if she's LTR material UNTIL you've f*cked her IMO. The last thing you want is to get into an LTR situation with a girl who is physically incompatable with you in between the sheets. I know that sounds kind of harsh to you but take it like this. One of the things girls really look for in a mate is confidence. Confidence in the social areana and confidence in the privacy of your bed room. If you can impress a girl with how good you are in bed and not let that affect how you treat her socially (that part can be tricky for some) then she'll think of you as a keeper.
 

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MattS said:
but am i in the wrong if i want an ltr with her too not immediatley bone her?
Yes, but dont worry its only social brainwashing.

If shes a normal, socially healthy and sexually active chick shes had plenty of ONS's already which makes your concern a moot point.

btw same rules should apply to ALL chicks, 3 hookups and no muff...NEXT.

I do want this girl as a gf so i dont want to come off as that guy who will bone the first opportunity
Why? afraid she will think your a man who enjoys sex?

Read the D.J Bible.
 

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just do it when youre not drunk. try it.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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If she's outgoing/fun type, I'd say about 3-5 dates you can start a sexual relationship. If she's the stay at home/bookish type, I'd say about 7-9 dates.

You may wonder why I have a longer time span for introvert types, the reason being is some of those introvert girls are harder to read, and don't you want to know the girl a bit before starting a sexual relationship with her?

Oh and LTR is not determined by the guy, it's determined by the girl.
 
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