lets say she likes the way you look physically, you're her type. and shes checking you out, giving you IOIS etc. then im i right in thinking that theres no need to build attraction? any need to do C/F? just build comfort and rapport right?
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
If a girl is already physically attracted to you..
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
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You don't have to work as hard but you still have to play your cards.
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You're in.
Its all about the attraction.
Attraction > Interest > Legs Open Wide.
Its all about the attraction.
Attraction > Interest > Legs Open Wide.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
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... then she already wants you. Physically. This softens up attracting her mentally a lot. Meaning, you're basically in as long as you don't say something very stupid 
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I still say you have to build attraction. So, she likes your looks. But, what about your personality? That is her next step in her choosing you! She may jvst want to fvck you based on your looks but, if your looking for a relationship... You gotta keep building attraction.
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True, but at that point, you can only screw up. You are still at an advantage.I.A.F.Y.B. said:
Bad looking guys have it hard from the get-go...unless they are insanely popular.
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True, too. I have a friend who is not good looking from what girls tell me. But, he is a funny guy and pretty good personality. One girl told me after meeting him said; "his personality makes him sexy." Which, goes back to women don't mainly judge on looks but, personality...LostAndConfused said:
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
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AS WOMEN AGE THEY START TO CARE MORE AND MORE ABOUT PERSONALITY CAUSE YOUNG ATTRACTIVE GUYS DONT WANT THEM AS MUCH AS BEFORE.I.A.F.Y.B. said:
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The physical part is important. Remember, she has sized up your "Do-ability" in the first 2-3 seconds when she looks at you. If she likes your face and body, now it's time for the psychological. Mind games. You want to make her crave you sexually, by kino, dropping hints, talking vaguely sexually, and letting her know you desire her. If it all comes together, after the third margarita, she ought to be putty in your hands.
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Yup I am in that boat now...JackPrescott said:
There are different kinds of attractions.
There are those with crushes. A girl with a crush usually has seen you around, watched you for some time. Her attraction runs deep in her emotions and plays somewhere in her fantasies that often extend back into her childhood. With a girl with a crush you can ignore her and treat her like crap and she’ll keep coming back for more. In all likeliness you will end up breaking her heart.
Then there are the ones who when they first see you that fireworks or whatever goes off in her head. She’ll go like, “Wow.” For the most part with such a girl you have to move relatively quickly to get her hooked. You want to start talking to her right away and lead the conversation to more of a we rather than you and me. This is the time to turn up the charm, look her strongly in the eyes and let her know that yes indeed, you are the man.
There are also ones that like you in a way that builds up over time, from being around you. These are sisters and friends of friends, girls that you work with and ones that are in your social circle. If you come on too strong, like you’re picking her up, she’ll most likely be offended that you would treat her such a way. You have to be a little more gentle with her. She’ll more likely expect a relationship even if it is just friendship rather than just sex. This is the type of girl that you want to take for a walk and hold her hand.
There are those with crushes. A girl with a crush usually has seen you around, watched you for some time. Her attraction runs deep in her emotions and plays somewhere in her fantasies that often extend back into her childhood. With a girl with a crush you can ignore her and treat her like crap and she’ll keep coming back for more. In all likeliness you will end up breaking her heart.
Then there are the ones who when they first see you that fireworks or whatever goes off in her head. She’ll go like, “Wow.” For the most part with such a girl you have to move relatively quickly to get her hooked. You want to start talking to her right away and lead the conversation to more of a we rather than you and me. This is the time to turn up the charm, look her strongly in the eyes and let her know that yes indeed, you are the man.
There are also ones that like you in a way that builds up over time, from being around you. These are sisters and friends of friends, girls that you work with and ones that are in your social circle. If you come on too strong, like you’re picking her up, she’ll most likely be offended that you would treat her such a way. You have to be a little more gentle with her. She’ll more likely expect a relationship even if it is just friendship rather than just sex. This is the type of girl that you want to take for a walk and hold her hand.
Im in your boat Number 2 there potato...past 2 weeks Ive seen this girl always throing glances at me....standin near me and my mates in clubs (im at uni..so you see the same people regulalrly)....thing is Im trying something different....I throw her some glances back....and no doubt Il get stick saying...go and make the move etc....but Im kinda havin fun with this....and its really cool to see her look for me..then at me whenever Im out......only thing tho...as I say..this has been happenin for a few weeks....Ive decided next time ou to make the move....but still...2 weeks.....she hasnt gone off with someone else yet...spose u cud say shes kinda mix of 1 and 2....
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Amen to you sir.potato said:
I got one of these first day in my new school and f*cked it up cause i didnt move fast enough.was working well in the first month but screw her now.I learned from my mistake and thats what matters :cheer:
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The girl that told me "his personality makes him sexy." is only 20 years old. I would say it depends on the girl than, perhaps?DonGorgon said: