You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
But I cannot.Latinoman said:1. Your colleagues can also be replaced.
Sure, if you're dealing with people (like on this board) that have the emotional maturity of a fifth-grader.2. Who you screw tells others a LOT about who you are. In fact, tells others the level of self-respect you have.
Wow, you must be really personally involved with the people you work with (see "fifth-grade maturity" above). Not much to do around the office? Maybe concentrating on your work instead of who your co-worker is banging would help along your productivity.3. If the woman you are screwing have zero respect for you...then I, as a colleague, MIGHT respect your work...but WILL have zero respect for you as a Man.
Weren't you the one who didn't have sex in 5 years? With all the standards you have it sounds as if you outpriced yourself out of the market.Wyldfire said:I am very careful about who I get involved with because I have very high standards I hold myself to, and any man who comes into my life needs to be a good fit for those standards
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
She didn't have trust issues with me. But she will (as any woman in her position), because I left her.Wyldfire said:I find it ironic that you told me recently that your ex wife has trust issues when it would appear to me that you have them as well.
Like your abusive ex-husband...convict ex-fiance...etc.?Despite the fact that I have been with someone who gave me reason not to trust men, I don't hold that against new men who come into my life. I am very careful about who I get involved with because I have very high standards I hold myself to
Like the convict that was in jail and was your fiance?and any man who comes into my life needs to be a good fit for those standards. I automatically trust him.
Like the man that was in jail and you made your fiance?If at some point he gives me reason not to trust him I end the relationship. It's very simple, actually.
I have no control about how others behave. And I have 100% confidence on MYSELF.It's really too bad that you don't let yourself trust. That tells me that you really aren't too confident about your choices in women and that you are sabotaging your relationships to fail before they even get started.
May I ask you what are you doing in this board then? Hanging with a bunch of 10-year-old kids?drZaius09 said:Sure, if you're dealing with people (like on this board) that have the emotional maturity of a fifth-grader.
Don't worry about my career success. In fact, I can give advice to you on that issue too.Wow, you must be really personally involved with the people you work with (see "fifth-grade maturity" above). Not much to do around the office? Maybe concentrating on your work instead of who your co-worker is banging would help along your productivity.
If you are sleeping with a woman that does NOT respect you. Then, my friend, you can rest assure that she is sleeping with you out of pitty or to get something from you. Lack of self-respect from both parties (you and her).In 7 years in my current job, nobody I work with has ever layed eyes on any of the... sh#t.... 30 + women I've banged in that time period. I doubt I've even spoken 3 words about any one of them in that time. Why? Because I have sh#t to do that doesn't involve women, or whether women respect me, or whether they respect anyone else. I don't derive my self-respect from the opines of anyone but myself.
The day that you have to make a CRITICAL decision that can and will change the life of somebody you love or care about...it is the day that you can come in here and tell me you are "decades more evolved" than me. Which on itself is a very arrogant statement.That's the reason why, although I may be younger than you, I'm decades more evolved.
BS. You haven't had sex in 5 YEARS BECAUSE YOU HAVE HUGE TRUST ISSUES AND DON'T TRUST MEN!!!! HELLLOOOO????? Platonic dating does not count as "trusting" men.Wyldfire said:Despite the fact that I have been with someone who gave me reason not to trust men, I don't hold that against new men who come into my life. I am very careful about who I get involved with because I have very high standards I hold myself to
There is a big difference. You NEED a lot of people to see that, I don't.Latinoman said:That's a HUGE difference between us. One that I'm sure lot of people can see in this debate.
I'm trying to help those who are in the same position I used to be in. Like you.May I ask you what are you doing in this board then? Hanging with a bunch of 10-year-old kids?
I'm sure you're great.Don't worry about my career success. In fact, I can give advice to you on that issue too.
Do you even have any idea who I am or what I do? No. Because I don't come on here making vague statements of self-importance to build approval amongst an audience of strangers.The day that you have to make a CRITICAL decision that can and will change the life of somebody you love or care about...it is the day that you can come in here and tell me you are "decades more evolved" than me.
Sounds like somebody's making vague statements of self-importance to build approval amongst an audience of strangers. Now who's arrogant?When I make CRITICAL decisions...people's life get impacted.
Maybe if you'd have "thought ahead" and been more careful with your reproductive organs to begin with, you wouldn't be in the predicament of needing to "think ahead" for future generations. You created these circumstances, and now you want to pat yourself on the back for taking responsibility for it?And when I make decisions that can impact my children...I think ahead as to the impact it might have three generations ahead of me (i.e. my children's grandchildren).
You sound angry. It's a shame that an anonymous figure on an internet message board could elicit such emotion from you.Until then...sit down...shut your mouth...and listen. You might learn something.
Everything I want or need...I already have.drZaius09 said:There is a big difference. You NEED a lot of people to see that, I don't.
LOL. What position was that?I'm trying to help those who are in the same position I used to be in. Like you.
Of course I am.I'm sure you're great.
Personally...I don't care.Do you even have any idea who I am or what I do?
Instead, you come in here calling the entire population of the forum "5th grade children". That on itself is a vague statement of self-importance.No. Because I don't come on here making vague statements of self-importance to build approval amongst an audience of strangers.
You mean like dealing with the members of this forum which you consider like 5th grade students?Sounds like somebody's making vague statements of self-importance to build approval amongst an audience of strangers. Now who's arrogant?
You are very narrow minded.Maybe if you'd have "thought ahead" and been more careful with your reproductive organs to begin with, you wouldn't be in the predicament of needing to "think ahead" for future generations.
EXACTLY. I created the circunstances.You created these circumstances, and now you want to pat yourself on the back for taking responsibility for it?
Really? Angry at what?You sound angry.
LOL.It's a shame that an anonymous figure on an internet message board could elicit such emotion from you.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Typical ape...ain't he?cordoncordon said:Dr. Zaius Dr. Zaius, oh Dr. Zauis
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She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
grinder said:LOL, whether trae22 is a troll or not, he/it sure pinched sombody's nipples/scrotum/hemaphrodicic-parts. I do apologize to all those folks that write oceans and oceans of stuff.
I wish to share with you an ancient tome from a very excellent english professor on the issue of "how long should my paper be?".
"Well, it's like a young lady's skirt: It should be long enough to cover the subject, but short enough to be interesting."
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.