You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
But I cannot.Latinoman said:1. Your colleagues can also be replaced.
Sure, if you're dealing with people (like on this board) that have the emotional maturity of a fifth-grader.2. Who you screw tells others a LOT about who you are. In fact, tells others the level of self-respect you have.
Wow, you must be really personally involved with the people you work with (see "fifth-grade maturity" above). Not much to do around the office? Maybe concentrating on your work instead of who your co-worker is banging would help along your productivity.3. If the woman you are screwing have zero respect for you...then I, as a colleague, MIGHT respect your work...but WILL have zero respect for you as a Man.
Weren't you the one who didn't have sex in 5 years? With all the standards you have it sounds as if you outpriced yourself out of the market.Wyldfire said:I am very careful about who I get involved with because I have very high standards I hold myself to, and any man who comes into my life needs to be a good fit for those standards
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
She didn't have trust issues with me. But she will (as any woman in her position), because I left her.Wyldfire said:I find it ironic that you told me recently that your ex wife has trust issues when it would appear to me that you have them as well.
Like your abusive ex-husband...convict ex-fiance...etc.?Despite the fact that I have been with someone who gave me reason not to trust men, I don't hold that against new men who come into my life. I am very careful about who I get involved with because I have very high standards I hold myself to
Like the convict that was in jail and was your fiance?and any man who comes into my life needs to be a good fit for those standards. I automatically trust him.
Like the man that was in jail and you made your fiance?If at some point he gives me reason not to trust him I end the relationship. It's very simple, actually.
I have no control about how others behave. And I have 100% confidence on MYSELF.It's really too bad that you don't let yourself trust. That tells me that you really aren't too confident about your choices in women and that you are sabotaging your relationships to fail before they even get started.
May I ask you what are you doing in this board then? Hanging with a bunch of 10-year-old kids?drZaius09 said:Sure, if you're dealing with people (like on this board) that have the emotional maturity of a fifth-grader.
Don't worry about my career success. In fact, I can give advice to you on that issue too.Wow, you must be really personally involved with the people you work with (see "fifth-grade maturity" above). Not much to do around the office? Maybe concentrating on your work instead of who your co-worker is banging would help along your productivity.
If you are sleeping with a woman that does NOT respect you. Then, my friend, you can rest assure that she is sleeping with you out of pitty or to get something from you. Lack of self-respect from both parties (you and her).In 7 years in my current job, nobody I work with has ever layed eyes on any of the... sh#t.... 30 + women I've banged in that time period. I doubt I've even spoken 3 words about any one of them in that time. Why? Because I have sh#t to do that doesn't involve women, or whether women respect me, or whether they respect anyone else. I don't derive my self-respect from the opines of anyone but myself.
The day that you have to make a CRITICAL decision that can and will change the life of somebody you love or care about...it is the day that you can come in here and tell me you are "decades more evolved" than me. Which on itself is a very arrogant statement.That's the reason why, although I may be younger than you, I'm decades more evolved.
BS. You haven't had sex in 5 YEARS BECAUSE YOU HAVE HUGE TRUST ISSUES AND DON'T TRUST MEN!!!! HELLLOOOO????? Platonic dating does not count as "trusting" men.Wyldfire said:Despite the fact that I have been with someone who gave me reason not to trust men, I don't hold that against new men who come into my life. I am very careful about who I get involved with because I have very high standards I hold myself to
There is a big difference. You NEED a lot of people to see that, I don't.Latinoman said:That's a HUGE difference between us. One that I'm sure lot of people can see in this debate.
I'm trying to help those who are in the same position I used to be in. Like you.May I ask you what are you doing in this board then? Hanging with a bunch of 10-year-old kids?
I'm sure you're great.Don't worry about my career success. In fact, I can give advice to you on that issue too.
Do you even have any idea who I am or what I do? No. Because I don't come on here making vague statements of self-importance to build approval amongst an audience of strangers.The day that you have to make a CRITICAL decision that can and will change the life of somebody you love or care about...it is the day that you can come in here and tell me you are "decades more evolved" than me.
Sounds like somebody's making vague statements of self-importance to build approval amongst an audience of strangers. Now who's arrogant?When I make CRITICAL decisions...people's life get impacted.
Maybe if you'd have "thought ahead" and been more careful with your reproductive organs to begin with, you wouldn't be in the predicament of needing to "think ahead" for future generations. You created these circumstances, and now you want to pat yourself on the back for taking responsibility for it?And when I make decisions that can impact my children...I think ahead as to the impact it might have three generations ahead of me (i.e. my children's grandchildren).
You sound angry. It's a shame that an anonymous figure on an internet message board could elicit such emotion from you.Until then...sit down...shut your mouth...and listen. You might learn something.
Everything I want or need...I already have.drZaius09 said:There is a big difference. You NEED a lot of people to see that, I don't.
LOL. What position was that?I'm trying to help those who are in the same position I used to be in. Like you.
Of course I am.I'm sure you're great.
Personally...I don't care.Do you even have any idea who I am or what I do?
Instead, you come in here calling the entire population of the forum "5th grade children". That on itself is a vague statement of self-importance.No. Because I don't come on here making vague statements of self-importance to build approval amongst an audience of strangers.
You mean like dealing with the members of this forum which you consider like 5th grade students?Sounds like somebody's making vague statements of self-importance to build approval amongst an audience of strangers. Now who's arrogant?
You are very narrow minded.Maybe if you'd have "thought ahead" and been more careful with your reproductive organs to begin with, you wouldn't be in the predicament of needing to "think ahead" for future generations.
EXACTLY. I created the circunstances.You created these circumstances, and now you want to pat yourself on the back for taking responsibility for it?
Really? Angry at what?You sound angry.
LOL.It's a shame that an anonymous figure on an internet message board could elicit such emotion from you.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Typical ape...ain't he?cordoncordon said:Dr. Zaius Dr. Zaius, oh Dr. Zauis
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You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
grinder said:LOL, whether trae22 is a troll or not, he/it sure pinched sombody's nipples/scrotum/hemaphrodicic-parts. I do apologize to all those folks that write oceans and oceans of stuff.
I wish to share with you an ancient tome from a very excellent english professor on the issue of "how long should my paper be?".
"Well, it's like a young lady's skirt: It should be long enough to cover the subject, but short enough to be interesting."
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.