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I think I just had my first 'daddy' experience.

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So I've been talking to a single mom now for a few weeks.

We talked about meeting up somewhere at the park, then get something to drink later. I thought she was gonna come by herself on the date, but she ended up taking her kids with her.

We talked a bit in the park. Then we went out at a coffee shop in town nearby. I ended up paying for two of her kids drinks. We just chilled out, fluffed talked for a bit and left. It was sorta awkward for a 'first date' to say the least. I would consider it more of a get together than a date.

I didnt mind the experience...but I wouldn't call it necessary a date, just a time to practice my daddy skills by interacting with kids which I'm bad at. This is something I gotta get good at, if I'm gonna get hitch someday and take the marriage route.

Anyways just venting. Peace.
 
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She is your penpal? That is cool. Its nice to have a social life. I have had daddy moments myself and it was very interesting and nice at the time. However when they want YOUR money to support their kids, and you are messed up financially yourself, things can get very ugly very fast. Especially in a third world country, be careful if she starts hinting or presenting a charity case to you and expects you to pay out to maintain or deepen that.
 

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She is your penpal? That is cool. Its nice to have a social life. I have had daddy moments myself and it was very interesting and nice at the time. However when they want YOUR money to support their kids, and you are messed up financially yourself, things can get very ugly very fast. Especially in a third world country, be careful if she starts hinting or presenting a charity case to you and expects you to pay out to maintain or deepen that.
Thanks for the advice. I'll keep that mind. She comes from a good family and she's a widow. It's cool to just get out because I've been cooped up in my house all this time. I went out cruising on my ebike before the date.

This experience was something to remember and behold lol
 

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She brought her kids? Wtf.

It over for SingleMomCels.

Its like the single mom version of when you set up a date with a childless girl and she brings one or more of her girlfriends along.

I have never dated a single mom before. Personally, I think you should only date a single mom if:

- You cant pull childless girls anymore
- She´s rich, or a celebrity, or in a key position to help you advance in your job/business
- She´s a focking 11
- You are a single dad.
 

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She brought her kids? Wtf.

It over for SingleMomCels.

Its like the single mom version of when you set up a date with a childless girl and she brings one or more of her girlfriends along.

I have never dated a single mom before. Personally, I think you should only date a single mom if:

- You cant pull childless girls anymore
- She´s rich, or a celebrity, or in a key position to help you advance in your job/business
- She´s a focking 11
- You are a single dad.
Of course, nobody chooses this unless there is no options. We can only deal with the cards we are given.

Some experience is better than no experience at all. When you have enough experience in your soul, then you tend to rather remain single and engage in other hobbies and stay away with dating if you have some sort of ceiling of options to get these types of women, or sub-par types.

At least, the OP has someone he looks forward to seeing that is not a cashier at check-out. It adds a bit of spice to the vacation.

The only real thing to worry about is not to get too attached to any daughter/younger girls from her. They can make up stories. If you touch them the wrong way accidentally it can escalate into deep trouble, etc....
 

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Its like the single mom version of when you set up a date with a childless girl and she brings one or more of her girlfriends along.
This is a good analogy. I would leave a date immediately if a childless woman pulled that stunt. One woman pulled that stunt on me when I was in a sophomore in college. She was also a sophomore at the time. I thought we were having a first date but she thought it was a social dinner. That was such an unpleasant night. That was also a good reason not to do dinner. Also, the woman who pulled that stunt has had her looks go downhill as she's now a mom of multiple children.

I have never dated a single mom before. Personally, I think you should only date a single mom if:

- You cant pull childless girls anymore
- She´s rich, or a celebrity, or in a key position to help you advance in your job/business
- She´s a focking 11
- You are a single dad.
I have never dated a single mom either. I like the 4 reasons. I want to break them down further.

You cant pull childless girls anymore: This is only applicable to the older generation of men. Today, a man has to be at least 45 for this to be applicable. I also think this group will be shrinking as the Millennial cohort ages. Right now, the earliest part of the the Millennial generation (1981/82-1996 births) is turning 40. Childlessness has been more common for Millennials than it was for Boomers and Gen X'ers. When 1965-1975 were turning 40 from 2005-2015, childlessness wasn't as big of a thing for 40 year old women now that the 1980s born snowflakes are turning 40. Men born in the 1980s will be able to find childless 1980s born females during in his 40s in the next decade without having to be all that impressive and get a big age gap. Childless women 30 or 35+ can be more difficult to find in the real world than on swipe apps. If you go to the right neighborhoods in large cities, these 30s/40s childless women can be found and approached in-person, an advantage over starting an interaction with swiping and texting.

She´s rich, or a celebrity, or in a key position to help you advance in your job/business: This scenario is not likely to be applicable for most men. Few women fit that description.

She´s a focking 11: This would be valid but also less common. Almost no single moms are among the top tier looking women. It's possible to run into some attractive single moms (8+). A lot of the 30+ year old porn stars/strippers and classic porn star/stripper looking women would fit this description and they'd be 8+ looking. These women might be the ones worth pursuing for shorter term casual sex.

You are a single dad: This is probably the most applicable scenario for men in their 30s/40s pursuing women in their 30s/40s, even with the increase in childlessness. Single dads and single moms can be good relational fits. A lot of childless women complain about single dads, but I believe the childless woman-single dad fit is better for longer term relationships than childless man-single mom fit. However, due to male surpluses and male thirst, I believe we're seeing more childless men acting as quasi cucks and raising single men's babies than we're seeing of childless women acting as stepmothers to a single dad's children. The single dad-single mom pairing can make sense for two partners who don't want additional children.
 

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"I think I just had my first "daddy" experience"

Lol, when I first read this thread title, I thought this was gonna be a thread about how you had your first experience with a girl calling you "daddy" while you were fvcking her! :oops:

I think SS is corrupting my mind!! Haha, just teasing guys, I'm in a strange mood today.
I thought the same thing!
 
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"I think I just had my first "daddy" experience"

Lol, when I first read this thread title, I thought this was gonna be a thread about how you had your first experience with a girl calling you "daddy" while you were fvcking her! :oops:

I think SS is corrupting my mind!! Haha, just teasing guys, I'm in a strange mood today.
I was thinking it was sugar daddy /sugar baby thread.
 

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Yo guys, If you've never dated a single mom before, you have no basis of comparison to say they're inferior. If you're dealing with an over-30 woman, generally speaking you're better off with her having had a kid. The most demanding ones out there tend to be the 30's childless crowd, and the craziest the 40+ childless crowd.
 

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I don't know... It seems like a major red flag for her to bring the kids along for the first time spent together. She knew what she was doing, by doing that. She used them as c0ck blockers, and this seems like shes looking at OP as a provider which she lacks desire for, instead of a guy her tingles tells her she must mount. She wants to see right away how op handles children. What do I know though, I could be way off.
 

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I don't know... It seems like a major red flag for her to bring the kids along for the first time spent together. She knew what she was doing, by doing that. She used them as c0ck blockers, and this seems like shes looking at OP as a provider which she lacks desire for, instead of a guy her tingles tells her she must mount. She wants to see right away how op handles children. What do I know though, I could be way off.
You got to be careful around widows, it's usually a major loss in their lives. It sounds like the woman wasn't really looking to see how he handles children, she's looking to see how he handles obstacles. When a woman deliberately puts obstacles in your way at the very beginning, expect many more of them to come your way. Imo this woman was testing to see how OP handles the big hole in her existence. Does the hole have a bottom at some point? Probably not worth finding out.
 

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I recently got out of a relationship with a Single Mum. I'd be horrified if she brought them along to our first meeting in person. At least the Woman I was with, wanted to keep her dating life, and life as a Mother separate. The only problem with that, is it limited the amount of time that we could spend together. A few months into the relationship though, strangely, I did though, want to meet her kids. However, she was hesitant. I guess it was due to the fact that she was still going through a divorce, and it was hard on her kids, and they didn't need the added complication.

Oh well, it was a learning experience for me.
 

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I recently got out of a relationship with a Single Mum. I'd be horrified if she brought them along to our first meeting in person. At least the Woman I was with, wanted to keep her dating life, and life as a Mother separate. The only problem with that, is it limited the amount of time that we could spend together. A few months into the relationship though, strangely, I did though, want to meet her kids. However, she was hesitant. I guess it was due to the fact that she was still going through a divorce, and it was hard on her kids, and they didn't need the added complication.

Oh well, it was a learning experience for me.
How did that relationship end? Is it not a good thing that it limits the time together as you know its not with another guy and you have more me time.
 

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So I've been talking to a single mom now for a few weeks.

We talked about meeting up somewhere at the park, then get something to drink later. I thought she was gonna come by herself on the date, but she ended up taking her kids with her.

We talked a bit in the park. Then we went out at a coffee shop in town nearby. I ended up paying for two of her kids drinks. We just chilled out, fluffed talked for a bit and left. It was sorta awkward for a 'first date' to say the least. I would consider it more of a get together than a date.

I didnt mind the experience...but I wouldn't call it necessary a date, just a time to practice my daddy skills by interacting with kids which I'm bad at. This is something I gotta get good at, if I'm gonna get hitch someday and take the marriage route.

Anyways just venting. Peace.
man , no offense … but chicks with kids or older than 30 start to degrade quite significantly when compared to a 25 year old for example

have no idea why you would do such a thing t yourself
 

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When I was in the best shape of my life I dated a single mother for about two months who was a former high school and college athlete, as well as competitive surfer. She was fit, attractive and had a calm demeanor.

She was obsessed with her ex (not husband, not baby daddy) but some guy she met online and was with for about a year.

Things were going well between us but as soon as he called saying he wanted her back (which incidentally was at the start of lockdowns) she dropped me like a bad habit.

She told me about him previously and that one condition of them dating was that she was never to bring her kid when they were together AND she had to go to his house if she wanted to see him.
 

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When I was in the best shape of my life I dated a single mother for about two months who was a former high school and college athlete, as well as competitive surfer. She was fit, attractive and had a calm demeanor.

She was obsessed with her ex (not husband, not baby daddy) but some guy she met online and was with for about a year.

Things were going well between us but as soon as he called saying he wanted her back (which incidentally was at the start of lockdowns) she dropped me like a bad habit.

She told me about him previously and that one condition of them dating was that she was never to bring her kid when they were together AND she had to go to his house if she wanted to see him.
so the sex must have been extremely good , most likely also with some **** too
 

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So I've been talking to a single mom now for a few weeks.

We talked about meeting up somewhere at the park, then get something to drink later. I thought she was gonna come by herself on the date, but she ended up taking her kids with her.

We talked a bit in the park. Then we went out at a coffee shop in town nearby. I ended up paying for two of her kids drinks. We just chilled out, fluffed talked for a bit and left. It was sorta awkward for a 'first date' to say the least. I would consider it more of a get together than a date.

I didnt mind the experience...but I wouldn't call it necessary a date, just a time to practice my daddy skills by interacting with kids which I'm bad at. This is something I gotta get good at, if I'm gonna get hitch someday and take the marriage route.

Anyways just venting. Peace.
Red flags:

Single mother
Talking for weeks
Doesn't turn up alone
Makes you pay
Zero physical contact

I'd text her "when are we going to bang?" and if she gets stroppy, I'd block her number.
 

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Yo guys, If you've never dated a single mom before, you have no basis of comparison to say they're inferior. If you're dealing with an over-30 woman, generally speaking you're better off with her having had a kid. The most demanding ones out there tend to be the 30's childless crowd, and the craziest the 40+ childless crowd.
Childless women 30-39 who want children are demanding.

As a late 30s guy, I've been dealing with 30+ childless women for a while. It's not ideal. However, if you're considering 30-39 year old women, I think the childless women are a better choice simply because children are too much baggage and too drastic of a lifestyle change for the childless man.
 

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Childless women 30-39 who want children are demanding.

As a late 30s guy, I've been dealing with 30+ childless women for a while. It's not ideal. However, if you're considering 30-39 year old women, I think the childless women are a better choice simply because children are too much baggage and too drastic of a lifestyle change for the childless man.
If she trusts you with her kids then that something she is giving more emotional capital than a childless woman can. If you get along with her kids then she should be easy to deal with. Its like a Real Estate agent securing a mortgage for a client. That client will likely be more loyal than one who another mortgage broker undermining you.
But again you need money for these type of things and not be too childish yourself.
 
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