"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
I say hi to some chicks but they dont say hi?
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Joe The Homophobe
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spider_007
Master Don Juan
i was sitting behind a computer in CLASS and there was a chick beside me. i was well ahead of her in the project but i forgot haw to do something. SO I ASKED HER. My exact words; "HI, do (pause) you remember haw to trim this?" The minute i said hi she trund her head and gave me this: "what the hell do you want" look (without sayinga anything) I caught me a little of guard, but i wasn't doing anything i wouldn't do with any other person, male or female, so i just kept going and asked her the question. she tried to help, but was useless. I decided to ignore her for the rest of the class, but she kept making comments like; "finally done" or "gawwd, this is hard...", which kinda drew me back into a short conversation with her (in which i found out she is a shooter gurl at a bar, totaly NOT my type)....
My point (i forgot
).... unless you got something to say after "hi" don't bother. also get eyecontact and smile before you say hi"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Joe The Homophobe
Master Don Juan
Did you think that maybe you came off as a bit sensitive/nice guy when you said Hi and that didn't interest her?? I personally would have said with an assertive tone of voice "can you help me out with this." There is no need to say hi all the time.
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Start it off commenting on her "interesting" accesory, clothing, shoes..etc. etc......then just build a convo from there- this is how I started out.
I do have to agree....HI is the crapiest opener ever.....also it doesnt matter what you look like.....when style used to do bootcamps with mystery he would wear this fake ass black wig and put these disgusting piercings on his lip. He looked BAD....he approached got the number every time.....he did this to show his students LOOKS DONT MATTER...
Peace Out
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.