"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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I realize what has to happen...

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Somehow,someway,when this problem struck,it was a result of severe loneliness,depression,whatever. I was 16,didn't have a gf,and was convinced I was going to be lonely forever. I mean,it really struck me as that. It stayed with me for years. Engrained,now,I must work to get out of that. I have wasted too much time worrying about all this stuff,not working on myself enough. This post here made me rethink all this.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=83620
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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So what's your specific problem? Is it that you're researching this stuff too much instead of going out there? And how old are you now?
 
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Well,my main problem(s),have been I am generally unhappy in/with life,I feel behind in many aspects,loneliness,not much of a social life,and not having sex as much as I'd like,or any at all even. And that going on for long periods of time. Even feeling unatractive.

I think my problem is,as you said,researching into it too much rather than going out. I only really go out when invited,as in someone put's something together.

I am 23.
 

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CapedCrusader08 said:
Well,my main problem(s),have been I am generally unhappy in/with life,I feel behind in many aspects,loneliness,not much of a social life,and not having sex as much as I'd like,or any at all even. And that going on for long periods of time. Even feeling unatractive.

I think my problem is,as you said,researching into it too much rather than going out. I only really go out when invited,as in someone put's something together.

I am 23.

Dude, I'm only a year older then you, life is what you make it, you can complain like a little girl, or man up and go out there and face the world. We all are lonely at one point in our lives, do you think you gonna get women or better in life by sitting around b*tcing? hell no, stop it, Your mind is whats killing you, you have no swagger, your mindset is ruining you(positive thinking encompasses all!)! Start a new hobby, read books on spiritual enlightenment/body language/psychology, work out (whatever you need to do to get your confidence the fukk up!) go out to the store, cop a new shirt and some jeans, buy some new shoes, get a hair cut, and go out, you ain't even gotta "sarge" just go out, have a drink, chat up the bar tender, enjoy the ambiance, you to fuccing young to be crying about life, you in the fuccing prime of your life go out there and enjoy it!!

The next post I wanna read from you is something related to you picking up a new hobby or a field report, if it's not it don't bother, your KBJing is getting more and more sorry by the minute, we can give you advice but we can't change your life for you, you have to want change bad enough to take that step

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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Ok. I will do that. Thing is, this thing is constant,so overcoming it seems very hard. Positive thinking is the hard part.
 

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Finally a half decent thread out of you caped. Looks like you're finally realizing you need to take action. It shouldn't matter how hard it is, the end result will be well worth it.
 
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Yeah.But I feel there is alot to undo. Alot of inner what if's and why's and why not's? I am still trying to contact a therapist,someone to help me sort whatever is bugging me and put it all into perspective. I mean,I realize how lazy and procrastinate I have become,and what it's done to me. I don't know what that's a result of,and that's what seems to be the hardest to get over. Plus I am worried about how much looking at porn has affected me over the years. I also realized something else,I think maybe taking some of what is discussed on here too internally,and has made me rather sexist. Something I am not sure if it bothers me or not. Today,I was in the bookstore,and was reading bvitch magazine,it was all b.s to me. It was all this feminism/pro-women's lib/independence or whatever,and it got to me. I now have disdained any and everything related to feminism and it's connotations.
 
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The problem with you is you are bored. Now, I don't know you, I know nothing about you. I've read five of yours posts and in these posts you know what your problem is, yet you do nothing about it. It's fine sitting there and saying "I need to do this in order to achieve this", but talk is cheap, action is more expensive and it seems you do nothing to change your situation. We can only offer advice, we cannot solve your issues for you and at 23 I would hope you would understand this. Keep yourself occupied, find some interests and go about your life without the need to have a woman in your life and one will magically appear somewhere down the line. They always do.
 

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I wish I got a dollar for every time you use the word "realize"
I'd be rich by now
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Yeah you realized alot without going out on the field. The truth is you didn't realize nothing. It's like talking about how war would be like when you never went out in the battlefield. There is a huge difference between knowing and assuming. We all know which one you do all the time and that's assume u know sh1t. I mean you have these problems you are talking about, but show me one person that is perfect. Everyone has problems but they arent busy all day digging for more problems that's the difference between u and everyone you say have it better than you. To all the members can we stop replying to this guy we are only putting more wood into a big fire.
 

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Damn, youre STILL rambling on?!
 
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What can I say,I am in a hole I can't get out of,and have been in it for a long time. Why? I don't know. I have reasons why,I am stubborn,I have anxiety,I lack confidence,I keep creating scenarios in my head,I suffer from all the bad habits talked about on here,I am too average,I just don't have it,that flow or force that "makes them melt in you're hands in the throws of passion",and that greatly concerns,or,they'r is something inside of me I just cannot see.

As for being bored vs not,well again,work does that. But it feels more like an escape,and I didn't plan on things going on as long as they have. Plus,something happened they're recently that just drove the nail in a little deeper,not to me personally,but something moreso I know about,something I want some feedback on.

I mean,maybe I am just overthinking everything,and have even forgotten just how to go out and have fun and enjoy life.


Do I assume more or observe more?
 

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CapedCrusader08 said:
Do I assume more or observe more?
How the hell do you think we'll know the answer to that question?? We don't know you personally. You need to go somewhere else to get these questions answered, then come here when you're ready to take action.

I'm surprised of myself for not giving up on trying to help you yet.
 

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Dannyrt34 said:
I'm surprised of myself for not giving up on trying to help you yet.
Just be patient Danny. You'll get there.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Do I assume more or observe more?
???????????????

How about about option #3:.....DO MORE! Or just do SOMETHING, ANYTHING.

Its like you are have been looking (not actively of course, that would require effort) for your glasses for years, while they've been on your head the whole time. Worse then that even, you've got a hundred fingers pointing straight at them.

You can lead a thirsty horse to water... You can dunk the goddamned things head under the water... You can take a fvcking hose, and shove it in its mouth and turn it on full blast. Nothing.

You're the fourth little piggy, who sticks his head right into the wolfs mouth, rather than even try to build a house.

If you were the little engine that could... you wouldn't roll DOWN the hill...with all of us pushing.
 

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CapedCrusader08 said:
Yeah.But I feel there is alot to undo. Alot of inner what if's and why's and why not's?

I already said this once.

Shut the fvck up and stop making threads.

Pitiful fvcking bullsh1t that none of us want to read or deserve to put up with.

You are the type of person who knows he is a pvssy and would rather get attention for it over and over than fix it. You are the type of person who makes themself sick on purpose because he's worthless and has nothing to offer.

Fvck off already. If this forum had actual moderators you'd have been banned a long time ago for this attention whoring bullsh1t.
 

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Solomon said:
Dude, I'm only a year older then you, life is what you make it, you can complain like a little girl, or man up and go out there and face the world. We all are lonely at one point in our lives, do you think you gonna get women or better in life by sitting around b*tcing? hell no, stop it, Your mind is whats killing you, you have no swagger, your mindset is ruining you(positive thinking encompasses all!)! Start a new hobby, read books on spiritual enlightenment/body language/psychology, work out (whatever you need to do to get your confidence the fukk up!) go out to the store, cop a new shirt and some jeans, buy some new shoes, get a hair cut, and go out, you ain't even gotta "sarge" just go out, have a drink, chat up the bar tender, enjoy the ambiance, you to fuccing young to be crying about life, you in the fuccing prime of your life go out there and enjoy it!!

The next post I wanna read from you is something related to you picking up a new hobby or a field report, if it's not it don't bother, your KBJing is getting more and more sorry by the minute, we can give you advice but we can't change your life for you, you have to want change bad enough to take that step

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What's worse failing because you never tried? or failing because you
Exactly, when I first got here I felt sorry for you, now I don't even read your posts because it's the same repetitive stuff and it actually makes me feel down, which is the opposite of what this board is intended for.
 

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Metacomet said:
I already said this once.

Shut the fvck up and stop making threads.

Pitiful fvcking bullsh1t that none of us want to read or deserve to put up with.

You are the type of person who knows he is a pvssy and would rather get attention for it over and over than fix it. You are the type of person who makes themself sick on purpose because he's worthless and has nothing to offer.

Fvck off already. If this forum had actual moderators you'd have been banned a long time ago for this attention whoring bullsh1t.
:cheer:
 

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Energizer said:
The problem with you is you are bored. Now, I don't know you, I know nothing about you. I've read five of yours posts and in these posts you know what your problem is, yet you do nothing about it. It's fine sitting there and saying "I need to do this in order to achieve this", but talk is cheap, action is more expensive and it seems you do nothing to change your situation. We can only offer advice, we cannot solve your issues for you and at 23 I would hope you would understand this. Keep yourself occupied, find some interests and go about your life without the need to have a woman in your life and one will magically appear somewhere down the line. They always do.
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Throw yourself into family, friends, work, church, hobbies. In that order. Even if you don't have a girl you will have some good friends, some good times, and not alot of time for you to worry.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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