i get 6-8 on hotornot.com. I had a picture on there for the longest time and it was an 8, after several hundred votes, then, it slid down, down, down to 7.1. I put another on there and got a 6, i put another on there and got a 7.7. Hotornot.com is stupid, just look at the ratings the girls get on that site. Why is it that any blonde automatically gets 2 points added to her rating? It's stupid, you can't go off it. i just like seeing all the fat women trying to cover up their fat chin trying to get a man on that site.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
i put this to you: you are not as good looking as you think
- Thread starter lordson
- Start date
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
I look good enough 
I've hooked up with females and gotten attention from females I'd consider HB8.5's, 9's on occassion, and I have the belief no one jumps more than 1 point up higher than you already are, so hence I'd rate myself about a 7.5/8.0
Me --> yesterday
Got 9 on hotornot (i don't give that site validity)
Some old ones...
Me and My ex-gf
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I love my looks and basically I feel i'm above average, I've had hot girls to validate that... but what does it matter in the long run ?? Looks fade easily, glad I found a girl that we got more than just looks and physical attraction... Lata bro's
-Cod3r
I've hooked up with females and gotten attention from females I'd consider HB8.5's, 9's on occassion, and I have the belief no one jumps more than 1 point up higher than you already are, so hence I'd rate myself about a 7.5/8.0
Me --> yesterday
Got 9 on hotornot (i don't give that site validity)
Some old ones...
Me and My ex-gf
--
I love my looks and basically I feel i'm above average, I've had hot girls to validate that... but what does it matter in the long run ?? Looks fade easily, glad I found a girl that we got more than just looks and physical attraction... Lata bro's
-Cod3r
attrACTION, glad to help. To be frank, despite all the positive responses and natural confidence, there's still a part of me that thinks I'm 'fooling' women into finding me attractive.
I am sure that without factors things like posture, attitude and 'style' I am not so ridiculously good-looking that women would throw themselves at me.
But when I am full of confidence and alpha-attitude, and use my 'bedroom eyes', chicks melt and open their legs. Reading about sexual state on SS rang true with me, it's one of the things I realised had always given me an advantage over my (occasionally even better looking) competition when getting women in bed fast.
I also realised a long time ago that no matter who you are some women will find you hot and others won't and there is no objective standard to how good-looking you are. But if you act and believe that all women are desperate to get into your pants it's almost a self-fulfilling prophecy, and makes life more enjoyable too.
I am sure that without factors things like posture, attitude and 'style' I am not so ridiculously good-looking that women would throw themselves at me.
But when I am full of confidence and alpha-attitude, and use my 'bedroom eyes', chicks melt and open their legs. Reading about sexual state on SS rang true with me, it's one of the things I realised had always given me an advantage over my (occasionally even better looking) competition when getting women in bed fast.
I also realised a long time ago that no matter who you are some women will find you hot and others won't and there is no objective standard to how good-looking you are. But if you act and believe that all women are desperate to get into your pants it's almost a self-fulfilling prophecy, and makes life more enjoyable too.
HIlarious.
You actually consider yourself "good looking"?
Enter my realm, FOOL.
http://photos.imageevent.com/neal/junk/websize/meparty4.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/neal/junk/websize/meglasses1.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/neal/junk/websize/meparty1.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/neal/junk/websize/imsohot1.jpg
now please. sit down
PS: cod3r. I like your style
You actually consider yourself "good looking"?
Enter my realm, FOOL.
http://photos.imageevent.com/neal/junk/websize/meparty4.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/neal/junk/websize/meglasses1.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/neal/junk/websize/meparty1.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/neal/junk/websize/imsohot1.jpg
now please. sit down
PS: cod3r. I like your style
Oh and, this is what an 11 like me gets to rail every night while you chumps choke it off.
(shes the one in green)
http://photos.imageevent.com/neal/junk/websize/img_0642 _medium_.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/neal/junk/websize/crystalbed.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/neal/junk/websize/crystaldance.jpg
(shes the one in green)
http://photos.imageevent.com/neal/junk/websize/img_0642 _medium_.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/neal/junk/websize/crystalbed.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/neal/junk/websize/crystaldance.jpg
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Le Parisien
Master Don Juan
I don't know if you genuinely believe what you say.mrRuckus said:
I don't know, maybe you prefer larger women? Don't take it the wrong way, but are you black by any chance? Personally, I have no problem accepting that some other dude's girl's hot.
MAVER1CK, yes your girl's hot. I'd give her a 7.5.:yes:
Is she the one in "light green" (you know the one we can't see the face) or the one in "dark green"? Because the light green one clearly has a smoking body on this picture.
Actually the second picture is the best to judge, because any decent girl can dress provocatively to gain a few points...
However, MAVER1CK, you look more like a poser than a genuine good looking guy to me. You know constantly with sunglasses and spiky hair and such...
But hey, my opinion doesn't matter. If the ladies love it, that's all that matters...
I know you! This is you right?MAVER1CK said:
http://www.fotosearch.com/comp/ART/ART166/FOP032.jpg
But congratulations on your slightly better than average looking woman.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Re:
Pissing Contests and ****-Size Competitions, LOVE IT...
1) Would rather take information from someone who is NOT stunning, but bags chicks, or someone whos IS stunning and bags chicks? One denotes skill, the other denotes more luck and physiological advantage.
2) IMO, men become boys or girls when they begin valuing each other based on looks.
3) There's no way to possibly validate someone's lays, except by virtue of their level of respect and honesty. Any of those pictures could be cropped, cut, stolen, or simply one's friend. I don't think I'd buy one single picture unless I saw your D!ck in her mouth. And I don't want to see that anyways. I've never questioned that guys get laid, or have good looking chicks here, and I tend to respect the guys who DON'T talk as much as the ones who do. Buddy's in my own life, who easily bag 10's (dimes for Boston anyways, I know they're different down South), generally don't talk about their pursuits. Some do, generally about sluts, as I often will about a slut.
Post away if you like, but I'm responding the original purpose of the post. Are we valuing lays and advice on looks or on the skill of the poster? I think there's alot of undervalued guys who post nothing about looks or women, for the reasons I mentioned above and more.
As far as bagging chicks...the ones I've slept with are ones I wanted to sleep with, date, meet, or be with. The information given by sites like this, or books, depends on HOW the user uses it. It's like wealth information, the principles work, but HOW far do you want to go? Some only want to be millionaires, other's might want deca-millionaires, other's want only 1,000's per month. Hence why I've thought OVER complication of these basic principles TIES you to ONE guru, ONE poster, ONE thought pattern, and then you have to KNOW everything about it. If I sold you a system, that may or may not work, then you'd have to KNOW I get the type of women you want and have the type of life you desire. If not, why would you buy it? And even then, you might be skeptical. The best line on this was from Billy Bob Thornton in School for Soundrels when he says, "You can't help yourself because yourself Sucks."
Until you KNOW yourself, how can you upgrade or improve or destroy any of the beliefs you have? Until you KNOW where you stand, how can you know where you're going? A person who isn't laying chicks, can't judge accurately, until HE has done it, how effective the other guy is at what he's doing, and whether it's BS or not. It's the difference between KNOWING and UNDERSTANDING. You might KNOW a fact, but it doesn't assume you UNDERSTAND it with empathy and emotion.
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Character matters 1,000% more than anything.
It's the character that can get the average guy to the gym to turn himself into Hercules.
It's the character that when ALL the chips are down and out will make things happen.
It's the character that when crisis hits, the true hero rises or falls.
It's the character that endures and exists beyond all OUTSIDE limitations and perceptions.
A woman can't FEEL your looks with her EMOTIONS, but she can FEEL your character, your energy, your presence, your values, you, when you're not around. And when she is around, she can sense it 1,000% more. She feeds of the character, NOT the looks. The looks can be changed, AND do change. Any guy can go from NOT to HOT, without much effort, and with effort, he could be a god.
Personally, I don't care what guy boasts on his looks. Good for him. Far too few people care about their health and looks these days.
A-Unit
Pissing Contests and ****-Size Competitions, LOVE IT...
1) Would rather take information from someone who is NOT stunning, but bags chicks, or someone whos IS stunning and bags chicks? One denotes skill, the other denotes more luck and physiological advantage.
2) IMO, men become boys or girls when they begin valuing each other based on looks.
3) There's no way to possibly validate someone's lays, except by virtue of their level of respect and honesty. Any of those pictures could be cropped, cut, stolen, or simply one's friend. I don't think I'd buy one single picture unless I saw your D!ck in her mouth. And I don't want to see that anyways. I've never questioned that guys get laid, or have good looking chicks here, and I tend to respect the guys who DON'T talk as much as the ones who do. Buddy's in my own life, who easily bag 10's (dimes for Boston anyways, I know they're different down South), generally don't talk about their pursuits. Some do, generally about sluts, as I often will about a slut.
Post away if you like, but I'm responding the original purpose of the post. Are we valuing lays and advice on looks or on the skill of the poster? I think there's alot of undervalued guys who post nothing about looks or women, for the reasons I mentioned above and more.
As far as bagging chicks...the ones I've slept with are ones I wanted to sleep with, date, meet, or be with. The information given by sites like this, or books, depends on HOW the user uses it. It's like wealth information, the principles work, but HOW far do you want to go? Some only want to be millionaires, other's might want deca-millionaires, other's want only 1,000's per month. Hence why I've thought OVER complication of these basic principles TIES you to ONE guru, ONE poster, ONE thought pattern, and then you have to KNOW everything about it. If I sold you a system, that may or may not work, then you'd have to KNOW I get the type of women you want and have the type of life you desire. If not, why would you buy it? And even then, you might be skeptical. The best line on this was from Billy Bob Thornton in School for Soundrels when he says, "You can't help yourself because yourself Sucks."
Until you KNOW yourself, how can you upgrade or improve or destroy any of the beliefs you have? Until you KNOW where you stand, how can you know where you're going? A person who isn't laying chicks, can't judge accurately, until HE has done it, how effective the other guy is at what he's doing, and whether it's BS or not. It's the difference between KNOWING and UNDERSTANDING. You might KNOW a fact, but it doesn't assume you UNDERSTAND it with empathy and emotion.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Character matters 1,000% more than anything.
It's the character that can get the average guy to the gym to turn himself into Hercules.
It's the character that when ALL the chips are down and out will make things happen.
It's the character that when crisis hits, the true hero rises or falls.
It's the character that endures and exists beyond all OUTSIDE limitations and perceptions.
A woman can't FEEL your looks with her EMOTIONS, but she can FEEL your character, your energy, your presence, your values, you, when you're not around. And when she is around, she can sense it 1,000% more. She feeds of the character, NOT the looks. The looks can be changed, AND do change. Any guy can go from NOT to HOT, without much effort, and with effort, he could be a god.
Personally, I don't care what guy boasts on his looks. Good for him. Far too few people care about their health and looks these days.
A-Unit
DJ_in_making
Master Don Juan
Y'all stop hatin' on each other...
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PRMoon
Master Don Juan
Once again the unit post something prolific that half the people on here won't get. Not saying it shouldn't be said because if one person gets it then endevour is worth it. I can't belive alot of you are actually posting pictures in a thread. If you want to put a pic up, load it into your profile and not so you can brag about how good looking you are, but just so other people can identify with you a little bit better.
Also, we should note, none of us can agree 100 percent what makes a woman attractive. I don't know how many of those "Isn't this the hottest girl in the world!" or "Rate these girls who's the hottest" threads have been made and the results are either really varied or a (another) crazy flame war blows up. And that's judging the OPPOSITE sex. The people we're all trying to attain, the reason for all of us being here and no one can agree on what makes them attractive completely because you can NOT argue taste. For guys this has to be compunded because those who find themselves attractive look for their qualities or qualiteis they want to qualify other's as good looking. The whole thing is arbitray, so stop trying to objectify one another and focus on something that will actually get you somewhere.
Also, we should note, none of us can agree 100 percent what makes a woman attractive. I don't know how many of those "Isn't this the hottest girl in the world!" or "Rate these girls who's the hottest" threads have been made and the results are either really varied or a (another) crazy flame war blows up. And that's judging the OPPOSITE sex. The people we're all trying to attain, the reason for all of us being here and no one can agree on what makes them attractive completely because you can NOT argue taste. For guys this has to be compunded because those who find themselves attractive look for their qualities or qualiteis they want to qualify other's as good looking. The whole thing is arbitray, so stop trying to objectify one another and focus on something that will actually get you somewhere.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
TyTe`EyEs
Master Don Juan
For some reason, I never believe anyone on this board when they post a random pic of a hot chic - in a crowd none the less - and say that they are "railing that while the rest of us chumps choke it".
Wearing sunglasses inside is cool. Go ahead, call me a hater.
Wearing sunglasses inside is cool. Go ahead, call me a hater.
Charm&Style
Master Don Juan
Just to show how Us Persio's Are Pimps/Jakesh's
ill post a pic of me and my chick.
( due to a sh!t load of ppl being on this board, for security issues ive blurred our faces )
ill post a pic of me and my chick.
( due to a sh!t load of ppl being on this board, for security issues ive blurred our faces )
Capt.Jack Sparrow
Master Don Juan
haha..
Me:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a142/XSinaiBeachX/1164081038_l.jpg
Without the shades
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a142/XSinaiBeachX/1354930777_l.jpg
My wife (no wanking to her!):
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a142/XSinaiBeachX/1289396323_l.gif
Drunk with some friends:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a142/XSinaiBeachX/1368234497_l.jpg
Me:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a142/XSinaiBeachX/1164081038_l.jpg
Without the shades
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a142/XSinaiBeachX/1354930777_l.jpg
My wife (no wanking to her!):
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a142/XSinaiBeachX/1289396323_l.gif
Drunk with some friends:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a142/XSinaiBeachX/1368234497_l.jpg
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.