"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
I need motivation......
- Thread starter Demon
- Start date
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
pilot0001
Senior Don Juan
For me, working out is a good place to start if I need to pick my life up. It raises my self esteem high enough to be more strict with my diet. Then everything else seems to follow suite. Even if for just a short time I find it's worth it.
MagiKMaK
Don Juan
(do a search on google groups or browse these forums) and if you don't, just take a caffeine pill or two or drink 2-4 cups of coffee... I'm sure you'll find the motivation you need, you'll be itching to expel energy in anyway possible.enkai
Senior Don Juan
Just do it!
The most important thing, I think, is to be patient and persistent. There are times when I just got fed up things and the enthusiasm withered for a moment. But you have to persist, or just force yourself to make the initial move and take that step--
Just do it and keep going..eventually you will build momentum. Keep pushing and remember why you are doing what you are and what you want to achieve.
If you follow your feelings, it will bring you down. Force yourself.
It has to come from within...no amount of motivational comments can make a real difference to your desire...you've heard the saying "you can only lead a horse to water.."
Anakin
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
SHUT THE PHUCK UP! Dorks like you make me sick. You sound like a phucking woman. is it that time of the month? I can tell youre the type of pencil dic geek i see at the gym who is always standing around the universal machine doing half reps with that lame ass bench press. After that you go and talk to your friend for 10 minutes. But you do look cool with your oversized leather weight lifting belt and your padded leather "hardgainer" gloves and your awesome wrist wraps that you even use when you bench press, dork!
Just stop lifting all together and start jogging. You will always be a pvssy, PVSSY!
Drifter
Senior Don Juan
What the hell Vioriod.... you are contributing to the reason this site has gone to hell.
downing on him wont make him feel better. Try giving him some advice instead of flaming him, like some others I see did....
that perfectionist advice, yeah that applies to me definately.
good advice man.
xyzzy
Senior Don Juan
Some people need a kick in the pants to get off their ass and do something in their lives. Demon sounds like such a pussy... whaaaaah I wanna be big but Im too lazy to spend some time doing it.
Its like in the Simpsons.... "You know son if its too hard to learn how to do, its not worth doing".
Anyway Demon, if what you post is real and youre not just trying to be an attention wh0re, just take a few weeks off but make it a mindset to get back on track. With 1690 posts you definitely need to get out and say hello to Mr. big shining yellow ball in the sky every once in a while.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
My financial situation has some hiccups. Once those are out, I can finally get a gym membership, but right now, motivation to do anything is down the lou. I don't even feel like sleeping but I do it anyway since I have nothing else to do.
willo
Don Juan
Do you have a job dude?
What do you do in the week?
It sounds like you just sit at home all week, bored wallowing in self pity. A hint from someone who has been a bum, get a job, go to school and do something constructive. These 3 things do wonders for self confidence and energy levels. I have more energy now doing 125% normal credit load at university, working 3 jobs all the while maintaining some kind of social life.
If only someone had told me a couple of years ago; but i guess these things are better found out through experience.
There's a good quote I saw in the gym that goes something like this, "The past cannot be changed but the future is unknown. Now is a gift which is why it's called the present." The future is unknown... what will happen at this girl's house is unknown. She's a good friend of mine and has been for quite awhile. I know of all that talk about friends zone, etc., but it was me that told her "we're just friends." That gives me the power to change it.
Oh, I don't wallow in self-pity. I do stumble through it quite a bit. I told my best friend that he's not a friend anymore when I was extremely drunk. He told me that he will always call me his friend even if I don't think of him the same way. I have to apologize but I'm still dwelling on it.
I won't be when I apologize though.