"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I need help preparing for this date

Vikman

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I'm going in a date Saturday, first date. We're going to a night club. What should I do specifically to nail this date?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

Read more...

alwayslead8821

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well.... Don't try to hard, just have a good time. Talk to everyone and joke around with people as much as possible (building social value). DO not just be all positive and try to impress her... use push pull, if she does something awkward jokingly make fun of her (like call her a dork or something). Eventually if you are doing good you need to break the touch barrier. I think night clubs are the easiest to do this at. It is so ****ing loud in them that all you have to do is touch her arm or shoulder and slightly pull her to you.. If it is going good (she is returning touching OR she is really happy) I'll start talking closer to her ear and "accidentaly" hit her neck with my lips or her ear.. Works like a charm if you do it right. Just play it as it goes man and don't over analyze. Do NOT put her on any pedestul.. GOOODDDD LUCKKK MAN!
 

GameTime76

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Well, what is there really to do at a club. Drink and dance... Some might have pool tables. So, I'd say have fun and dance. Dont worry too much on trying to get to know her. You want to mainly focus on the fun and what you two are doing.
 

Allurre

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Yes, the key is to HAVE FUN. Nightclubs are no no's for establishing deep conversations, unless you can isolate her somewhere quiet. Just have fun, apply moderate kino throughout, enjoy your drinks, and don't CLING on to her.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Scion

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Nightclub eh? Why bring sand to the beach? Get her back to your place as soon as possible, don't linger. If you do some other guy with better game may scoop her up, i've seen it happen.
 
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