I made 24 direct cold approaches in one night

[Plinco]

I made a total of 33 in two days.

Thursday night: there were a ton of approach worthy women in Orlando, I'd say I saw about 44 or so whom I wanted to approach, but approached 24. 24/44

Friday during the day: I saw 6 approach worthy, and approached 3. 3/6

Friday night: 7 were approach worthy, and approached 6. I got approached by a cutie that night. 6/7


More details to come.

 

[Divorced w 3]

At 42 years old?

 

[Lotus Effect]

Have you got that hair cut?

 

[Travel memoir21]

Obviously, when it comes to this stuff, it's all about momentum. It can't be all about women, you've got to build a lifestyle and social circle to get you going. If you're new to a city or don't have anywhere to go, do something very basic like sign up for a martial arts class or attend a Gathering of worship with people. When you do go out, befriend also the guys there and the employees so you won't look like a creep and the be the cool social guy there. Bring a cool wingman with you if you can and make plenty of great connections around the area as social proof. This is something that's not very talked about on this site.

 

[nicksaiz65]

I made a total of 33 in two days.

Thursday night: there were a ton of approach worthy women in Orlando, I'd say I saw about 44 or so whom I wanted to approach, but approached 24. 24/44

Friday during the day: I saw 6 approach worthy, and approached 3. 3/6

Friday night: 7 were approach worthy, and approached 6. I got approached by a cutie that night. 6/7


More details to come.

Hell yeah! Did you go on a trip to get some approaches in?

 

[Plinco]

I had four good, long conversations on Thursday night, three in their early 20's and one 18/19. Went for the close with all four and got nowhere. Just ten minute intriguing conversations. All four girls/groups of girls had a very different impressions of me afterwards then beforehand. I think I came off as intelligent and charismatic, but ultimately unattractive.

Friday afternoon I tried to day game around the college campuses, which there are several in Orlando. I went to go visit one campus, because I have never been there before, and saw three separate girls who I wanted to approach, but just didn't feel comfortable doing on a campus, thus the 3/6 ratio for Friday in the day time. The other three I found around establishments off campus.

Thursday was the night I could have really racked up my approach numbers and got more practice in, but I made the assumption that Friday night would be similar, and sure as heck wasn't. Friday night sucked. There was eight girls worthy of being approached by me. I approached six of them, and got approached by one.

The first place I went to was a line dancing bar, because I've had practice, and it's also 18+ for Friday nights. I was told be two different people that Thursday nights are the best night to get there, something I'll keep in mind. I did a little dancing and went around talking to some random people who I thought looked cool. I made two approaches there, knowing me of course with the 18-20 girls. Something that I didn't expect happened after the second set rejected me. This cute af girl taps me on the shoulder and nervously said "hi." It caught me off guard and I was trying to play it cool, I said "hey. What brings you here?" She said something like "I saw you hitting on the two girls next to me and I saw you dancing earlier." This girl was so cute, she was so full of energy and she had braces which made her smile so cute. I felt the tension through the roof. She was nervous at first so I talked and joked around with her and she relaxed a bit. She said that she wanted to dance but was too nervous. I smiled, took her hand and led her to the dance floor and showed her. And then they wanted to do a dance lesson, she was right by me, but at some point she left the dance floor and stood there and watched. Again I was playing it cool and stayed on the dance floor until the song was over. It was a 30 move count and a fast pace song, so I couldn't pay attention to where she was. When the song was over, she was gone. By then, more people were coming in and the place gradually filled up, the women were either not my type or with men. I went to go find this girl who approached me and at least get her phone number, but then I saw her leave, so I went back to the dance floor hoping for some attractive women to come in. After about 30 minutes of that, the demographics didn't improve for me, so then I decided to head down town.

Downtown on that Friday night was a sh!tshow. I went to every place and hit on any attractive women I could find, all four of them. I left around midnight when I realized the lost cause the venture was.

Hell yeah! Did you go on a trip to get some approaches in?

Have you got that hair cut?

At 42 years old?

Yes, yes, dam straight.

Obviously, when it comes to this stuff, it's all about momentum. It can't be all about women, you've got to build a lifestyle and social circle to get you going. If you're new to a city or don't have anywhere to go, do something very basic like sign up for a martial arts class or attend a Gathering of worship with people. When you do go out, befriend also the guys there and the employees so you won't look like a creep and the be the cool social guy there. Bring a cool wingman with you if you can and make plenty of great connections around the area as social proof. This is something that's not very talked about on this site.

I talked to a number or random people there. I'm not from there so I don't know anyone there. A wingman would be nice.

 

[corrector]

You can't always get what you want....but if you try sometimes...you'll find you get what you need.

What you needed was a nice connection at that time after things were looking like the whole night was going to be a miserable dud. That girl came in and gave you a dance. The only colour in an otherwise black and white story. She knew you weren't getting anywhere and still made that connection with you. It's just brutal out there that you'll take what you can get at the end (ie hence why you were chasing this girl you would not have pursued if you had options).

You needed her that moment only. (ie time limited) You did not need her beyond it. That is why she left before you could connect with her. She was only meant for that dance. Maybe to give you a leg up. Try again.

 

[nicksaiz65]

I had four good, long conversations on Thursday night, three in their early 20's and one 18/19. Went for the close with all four and got nowhere. Just ten minute intriguing conversations. All four girls/groups of girls had a very different impressions of me afterwards then beforehand. I think I came off as intelligent and charismatic, but ultimately unattractive.

Friday afternoon I tried to day game around the college campuses, which there are several in Orlando. I went to go visit one campus, because I have never been there before, and saw three separate girls who I wanted to approach, but just didn't feel comfortable doing on a campus, thus the 3/6 ratio for Friday in the day time. The other three I found around establishments off campus.

Thursday was the night I could have really racked up my approach numbers and got more practice in, but I made the assumption that Friday night would be similar, and sure as heck wasn't. Friday night sucked. There was eight girls worthy of being approached by me. I approached six of them, and got approached by one.

The first place I went to was a line dancing bar, because I've had practice, and it's also 18+ for Friday nights. I was told be two different people that Thursday nights are the best night to get there, something I'll keep in mind. I did a little dancing and went around talking to some random people who I thought looked cool. I made two approaches there, knowing me of course with the 18-20 girls. Something that I didn't expect happened after the second set rejected me. This cute af girl taps me on the shoulder and nervously said "hi." It caught me off guard and I was trying to play it cool, I said "hey. What brings you here?" She said something like "I saw you hitting on the two girls next to me and I saw you dancing earlier." This girl was so cute, she was so full of energy and she had braces which made her smile so cute. I felt the tension through the roof. She was nervous at first so I talked and joked around with her and she relaxed a bit. She said that she wanted to dance but was too nervous. I smiled, took her hand and led her to the dance floor and showed her. And then they wanted to do a dance lesson, she was right by me, but at some point she left the dance floor and stood there and watched. Again I was playing it cool and stayed on the dance floor until the song was over. It was a 30 move count and a fast pace song, so I couldn't pay attention to where she was. When the song was over, she was gone. By then, more people were coming in and the place gradually filled up, the women were either not my type or with men. I went to go find this girl who approached me and at least get her phone number, but then I saw her leave, so I went back to the dance floor hoping for some attractive women to come in. After about 30 minutes of that, the demographics didn't improve for me, so then I decided to head down town.

Downtown on that Friday night was a sh!tshow. I went to every place and hit on any attractive women I could find, all four of them. I left around midnight when I realized the lost cause the venture was.








Yes, yes, dam straight.



I talked to a number or random people there. I'm not from there so I don't know anyone there. A wingman would be nice.

Lit. You should do this every weekend

 

[Plinco]

Lit. You should do this every weekend

That's what I'd like to do, but Orlando is two hours away from me.

I've been thinking about it ever since coming back, how to work it into my schedule.

 

[Divorced w 3]

You needed her that moment only. (ie time limited) You did not need her beyond it. That is why she left before you could connect with her. She was only meant for that dance. Maybe to give you a leg up. Try again.

God help him if that commercial is how he came off. He probably would have had her if he just got off the dance floor with her and continued the conversation. Instead he stayed out there - to ‘play it cool.’ Instead, she left, perhaps realizing that she is in fact not being reciprocated after she took her own social risk to approach him. Maybe she just didn’t like him. We will never know but if one spends all this time on a strategy, it makes no sense not to pursue at the very least to learn and gather data to calibrate moving ahead.

This is the overthinking / hubris that messes seduction up. I’m not sure if it was either social anxiety or a real overestimation of his personal greatness. I’m guessing hubris, and if so then that’s going to continue to be a block moving ahead. I’m open to alternate interpretation but I don’t know in what environment is it ‘cool’ to be out on the floor dancing on your own, unless you’re legitimately fire on the dance floor.

 

[Gamisch]

At 42 years old?

Oh boy...you just said out loud LOL

Double edged sword; on one hand yeah, a man can go on a " approach spree" but imo after that many approaches you HAVE to leave with at least 3 solid new women.

On the other hand a man at that age should be building his own business and monetize whatever skills he got. Personally I don't have the time nor the drive to do this. I don't wanna run behind prey, I rather lure them in...

 

[Divorced w 3]

Oh boy...you just said out loud LOL

Double edged sword; on one hand yeah, a man can go on a " approach spree" but imo after that many approaches you HAVE to leave with at least 3 solid new women.

On the other hand a man at that age should be building his own business and monetize whatever skills he got. Personally I don't have the time nor the drive to do this. I don't wanna run behind prey, I rather lure them in...

The idea permeating around here that men around 40 years old should actively try and approach women around college age is tough to watch. Hanging around college bars, hanging around the periphery of / walking through college campuses - playing with fire. Guys on this board are literally getting blacklisted on websites. If you can’t do it properly - it’s going to end badly.

 

[nicksaiz65]

Oh boy...you just said out loud LOL

Double edged sword; on one hand yeah, a man can go on a " approach spree" but imo after that many approaches you HAVE to leave with at least 3 solid new women.

On the other hand a man at that age should be building his own business and monetize whatever skills he got. Personally I don't have the time nor the drive to do this. I don't wanna run behind prey, I rather lure them in...

I feel ya, but I’d argue the whole point of doing career/business/what not is so that you can have the free time and do whatever you want with it, yknow?

 

[Divorced w 3]

I feel ya, but I’d argue the whole point of doing career/business/what not is so that you can have the free time and do whatever you want with it, yknow?

You must do this with a good wingman. Ideally with an actual friend so that you have strong plausible deniability that you’re there to enjoy whatever activity it is that the venue is offering. In the normal course of events at that venue, and then to and from it and elsewhere, you don’t look so patently obvious about your approaching intentions or worse, and then you can open sets as the opportunity presents.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Poet David Whyte on the right partner:

“One of the more restful achievements of having found the right partner in life is that we suddenly realize how much effort has previously gone into all the searching. Finding a mate takes enormous amounts of physical and emotional energy—dressing, comings and goings, and endless drama—which is why it can be so difficult to look again in midlife if we lose that happiness and must seek anew.”

 

[Gamisch]

I feel ya, but I’d argue the whole point of doing career/business/what not is so that you can have the free time and do whatever you want with it, yknow?

Yeah,but realistically 99% of us gonna have to work until the grand reaper comes for us. At my job I see more and more men continue to work after their retirement age.

It's just my opinion, but I think at some point in a man's life spam approach becomes a waste of time.

 

[Plinco]

On the other hand a man at that age should be building his own business and monetize whatever skills he got. Personally I don't have the time nor the drive to do this. I don't wanna run behind prey, I rather lure them in...

I'm trying to build my own business right now. Luckily I have the energy to do both, as long as I get enough sleep every night.

 

[corrector]

The idea permeating around here that men around 40 years old should actively try and approach women around college age is tough to watch. Hanging around college bars, hanging around the periphery of / walking through college campuses - playing with fire. Guys on this board are literally getting blacklisted on websites. If you can’t do it properly - it’s going to end badly.

He could say he's a mature student.

 

[corrector]

I'm trying to build my own business right now. Luckily I have the energy to do both, as long as I get enough sleep every night.

You are trying or are you actually going to do it? Anyone can commit to trying. Accomplishing it is another story.

You would say "I am building my own business right now, just you wait and see" if you were confident about it. Here you sound drained, lol You are not getting enough sleep?

 

[Plinco]

You are trying or are you actually going to do it? Anyone can commit to trying. Accomplishing it is another story.

I have a lawn business that I'm trying to expand. I'm doing a lot of advertising.