"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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I know this is bad

Epicwinguy

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I am always hesitant to tell embarrassing stories on sites and forums that I frequent, and I'm sure I'm not the only one, but **** it. Its the internet. So here it goes.

Last week was the second time I have slept with a girl without banging her. Granted, we were both very drunk and I passed out the second I hit the mattress. The first time it happened was with a girl I wasn't really interested in banging, but she was part of my social circle.

Now I'm not some fool who thinks "Oh, she totally wanted me." I know this likely a huge sign I am in the friend zone, but how bad is it and what does it mean I need to change about the way I do things? Is it possible I might still wind up banging a girl I have been in this situation with?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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ohrein

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It's not that bad. It really depends on the context. 99.9% of the time, if you're in bed with a girl she wants you to make a move. But look, shyt happens from time to time. My worst was taking a girl home from a bar and having a case of severe whiskey ****. It's literally the only time I have failed to get it up in my life. She ended up getting quite upset and we just stayed up listening to music. She was also part of my social circle so I ended up not living that down either, hahaha. But it is what it is. Be cool, move on.
 

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No, it’s not necessarily friendzone. It depends.

If she stayed on her side of the bed and kept lots of distance between both of you (ie zero body contact), then that’s not good.

If she snuggled up against you and pressed her boobs into you before falling asleep, then things are looking much better lol.

Even though you two didn’t do anything, any body contact would be a positive sign.

But continue to work on this one. Even without knowing the details, you probably still have a shot for next time.
 
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"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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The 1st time but you weren't interested.

The 2nd time you were drunk.

The 3rd time....

Wait, before I go further, gotta ask you this 1st, have you ever had s€x? (Wet dreams r not included).
 

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Yeah you can bang em both easily, not being pushy and desperate is a good thing.

If I’m in bed I give them the opportunity to accept my advances if I want to choose to even make them. If my advances aren’t reciprocated I cuddle them. Ended up with a LTR after that exact situation.

Here’s an opposite example. I was making out undressing a girl but I know I would look like a moron trying to remove her tight jeans. So I left her topless and went to take a piss with a super hard d!ck. (Right?) so I figured if when I get back those pants are still on I am de-escalating to cuddles. When I walked in, they were on the floor she was under the blankets.
 
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