"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I know this is bad

Epicwinguy

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I am always hesitant to tell embarrassing stories on sites and forums that I frequent, and I'm sure I'm not the only one, but **** it. Its the internet. So here it goes.

Last week was the second time I have slept with a girl without banging her. Granted, we were both very drunk and I passed out the second I hit the mattress. The first time it happened was with a girl I wasn't really interested in banging, but she was part of my social circle.

Now I'm not some fool who thinks "Oh, she totally wanted me." I know this likely a huge sign I am in the friend zone, but how bad is it and what does it mean I need to change about the way I do things? Is it possible I might still wind up banging a girl I have been in this situation with?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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ohrein

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It's not that bad. It really depends on the context. 99.9% of the time, if you're in bed with a girl she wants you to make a move. But look, shyt happens from time to time. My worst was taking a girl home from a bar and having a case of severe whiskey ****. It's literally the only time I have failed to get it up in my life. She ended up getting quite upset and we just stayed up listening to music. She was also part of my social circle so I ended up not living that down either, hahaha. But it is what it is. Be cool, move on.
 

Mike32ct

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No, it’s not necessarily friendzone. It depends.

If she stayed on her side of the bed and kept lots of distance between both of you (ie zero body contact), then that’s not good.

If she snuggled up against you and pressed her boobs into you before falling asleep, then things are looking much better lol.

Even though you two didn’t do anything, any body contact would be a positive sign.

But continue to work on this one. Even without knowing the details, you probably still have a shot for next time.
 
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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The 1st time but you weren't interested.

The 2nd time you were drunk.

The 3rd time....

Wait, before I go further, gotta ask you this 1st, have you ever had s€x? (Wet dreams r not included).
 

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Yeah you can bang em both easily, not being pushy and desperate is a good thing.

If I’m in bed I give them the opportunity to accept my advances if I want to choose to even make them. If my advances aren’t reciprocated I cuddle them. Ended up with a LTR after that exact situation.

Here’s an opposite example. I was making out undressing a girl but I know I would look like a moron trying to remove her tight jeans. So I left her topless and went to take a piss with a super hard d!ck. (Right?) so I figured if when I get back those pants are still on I am de-escalating to cuddles. When I walked in, they were on the floor she was under the blankets.
 
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