"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
i keep getting rejected
- Thread starter konmai
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"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
VladPatton
Master Don Juan
konmai said:
All these girls are doing is obliterating the bullsh^t you built your ego on before, which is just showing how weak your own self-belief is/was. They are addressing the real you, while you are addressing the fantasy version of you.
Your new ego and confidence will be rock solid as it is based on real achievement and progress, and not on entitlement and self-pity. You have to rebuild yourself, and ultimately they are doing you a favor.
perseverance
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But I don't care, I know my self-worth, I know I'm a f*cking top quality fella. I was in a coffee shop a few months ago when I saw a girl who rejected me across the room with her fella and she looked miserable as hell, I walked out the coffee shop with a huge smile on my face. The fella couldn't even bother to put some some attire on, he was wearing trackie bottoms and a sports top. If that was girl was my girlfriend, we would be having a morning f*ck session, nevermind a coffee.
Best of luck to her though, I wish her all the best for the future.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
I agree.VladPatton said:
When these girls can see from a mile off that you want to ask them out or ask for their number it takes away the mystery, and if you're predictable the chance you'll get rejected will be much higher.
I have experienced nights while working in a night-club that all the women would disrespect me, and then the hottest girl of all would suddenly give me IOI's.
It is a numbers game to a certain extent. Just make sure you look your best and that will help you to feel your best regardless of what others think.
And Rejection should be EMBRACED....the more you get rejected, the less you will care after it happens a number of times. This is good for personal growth.
If you're getting consistently rejected, there are things about YOU that you need to change. Be honest. With us and with yourself.
It's the only way you'll improve...
before i used to be really shy and quiet -- skinny fat but young. now i'm quiet but more confident and athletic but older. not sure if it's because of my getting older or personality. i want to figure out what worked before and what's not working now.
also, what i find baffling is other dudes can be quiet, and no one really says anything about it. but when i'm quiet, all eyes on me. people make a big deal out of it. not sure what that's about. oh and i try to stay under the radar at school. just wanna go to school, focus in class and then head out to work, study, etc.... i don't really socialize at school at all, but it's been hard since people make a big deal out of it. i don't know if it's b/c people think i'm a loner or what.
went on a date with one girl, and she texted me later asking "were you just being nice to me?" i reassured her that i wasn't and never heard from her again. felt like she was BSing me with that text.
yyc12
Senior Don Juan
Funny you say that as I experience the exact same thing. I've come to believe that it all comes down to their perception of you. Once someone has made up their mind about you, there's little you can do to change it. It becomes their reality whether it's actually true or not. When you're smaller/thinner and quiet, you're insecure and shy, but if you're bigger/taller you're the strong silent confident type. People will always make up their own "truths".konmai said:
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
ricodragos
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If u keep getting rejected, change something... i have a friend who does the same **** with girls over and over again, and gets dumped 2months later.... he dosnt learn.
I had some problems to, i went from "hey.. hihihihih, soooo what are u doing here, lovely weather" to simply "hey you, yeah you ... wait a min i want to talk to you".
Just find something that suits you best. For me is make eye contact until she breaks it, ignore her a bit, go in for the number, leave the premise.
My recommendation:
You shouldnt linger, dont give her the oportunity to start thinking(everything goes bad when a woman gets logical).
Keep an enthusiasmatic voice and bodylanguage.
Introduce yourself, hold the hand shake, tell her you have to go but want to get to know her sometime, ask for number, release hand shake, smile and wave as u gtfo.