"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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She is a lot younger than me, but we both agree that age is just a number. Anyways, we talked a lot and I found out that she is a Mormon or Latter Day Saint and I am Jewish. I basically believe in God and prefer to date women who also believe in God. My question is: what do Latter Day Saints believe? Please be specific, and provide passages for me to read.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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BillyPilgrim

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Why is Jewishness such a strong part of your identity, OP?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Well, the Mormons believe that the Israelites and the Mormons share an ancestor or some such. However if shes a temple Mormon or strong in the church, you guys ain't going nowhere.
 

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I have relatives who were killed in the Holocaust! I'll always be proud to be a Jew. We're God's chosen people!
I have heard rumors that a large portion of the holocaust is a hoax.

The thing is, the Jews were probably not the perfect little angels they claim to be throughout all of history, they always claim to be the victims.

But over the course of history the Jews have been expelled from countries 109 times. 109 times! I mean, it makes you wonder, maybe they did some stuff wrong to piss a lot of people off.
 

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There is nothing wrong with being religious. Just understand that future potential is probably limited to ****ing her and not long-term. She WILL want you to convert if you're thinking marriage/kids down the road. It is highly unlikely that she would give up her faith for yours as a Mormon. Not saying it doesn't happen but typical.

Decide what you want out of her but understand the rift from a religious perspective will cast a certain cloud over things and it won't suddenly vanish (assuming you both are active in your respective faiths).
 

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I have heard rumors that a large portion of the holocaust is a hoax.

The thing is, the Jews were probably not the perfect little angels they claim to be throughout all of history, they always claim to be the victims.

But over the course of history the Jews have been expelled from countries 109 times. 109 times! I mean, it makes you wonder, maybe they did some stuff wrong to piss a lot of people off.
that’s a pretty dispicable and incredibly ignorant thing to say. And your source are rumors ?

In your defense, Jews are one of the last groups you can openly be racist against and there be no repercussions.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Dated a chick who was a model for American Apparel who was a Mormon. Nothing about her was weird or abnormal. She jus went to the church on Sundays and mentioned something about a 10% tithe .. that goes to the church. like 10% of your income.. so she left and moved to Cali.
 

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I have heard rumors that a large portion of the holocaust is a hoax.
In your defense, Jews are one of the last groups you can openly be racist against and there be no repercussions.
Don’t defend the indefensible. Incels and neo-Nazis have a strong correlation… they are now contaminating this forum with their conspiracies.
 

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Don’t defend the indefensible. Incels and neo-Nazis have a strong correlation… they are now contaminating this forum with their conspiracies.
So Eye, what do you think about the treatment of Blacks in Israel?
 

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Be attracted to the person first and the faith a distant second. Do you both have chemistry? If she's a cool chick then pursue it and see what happens? All this other bs is simply static.
 

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Op, She can't be any worse than a Catholic girl on work release from the convent. You'll be fine.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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You guys are so gullible. OP is clearly a troll.
No. I'm serious. I'll tell you all more about her: she is 30 and came to the United States from Italy. She has a mother and a 9 year old son who lives with her mother in Italy. About once a year she visits her mother and son in Italy. While she was living in the United States she converted to the Mormon faith from Catholicism.
 
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Op, She can't be any worse than a Catholic girl on work release from the convent. You'll be fine.
Cause jews are like crossfitters and vegans, they can't stop blabbing about what the are to everyone, everyday, everytime.
An Italian Mormon girl would be a headache for anyone, Jew or Gentile lol. Here we have one "interested" in a man over twice her age. Hmm...
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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