Uncharted
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This whole experience made me feel WAYYY better about any other time I've gotten LJBF'd.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
I just LJBF a chick and holy sh1t
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
LongLostFriend
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"I don't understand. She's serving it to you on a plate. Why not hit it a time or two? You could walk away any time."
No, he couldn't walk away at any time. "Crazy/stalker" trumps "hot and DTF" every time. Not worth the collateral damage.
No, he couldn't walk away at any time. "Crazy/stalker" trumps "hot and DTF" every time. Not worth the collateral damage.
5string
Master Don Juan
Not saying you are wrong but, I could walk away and not answer the phone.LongLostFriend said:
35 year old woman at work, single parent, many giys in between. recently rekindled and interst from when she was 18, he asked her out now he is divorced, blew her out again...it cant stop playing on her mind....after all these years. they fvcking hate it!
Pure gold.
A few months ago I decided on a second date that this girl might not be all that interested or I was possibly being used for AW purposes, which annoyed me, but I was genuinely fine with actually being friends with her. She has others. On the way to taking her home she was already miffed that I pretty much called her on her ****, then I suggested that we "just be friends" and it was pretty clear she was pissed. LOL
Priceless. Chicks friend zone guys constantly and when guys don't like it they get called all manner of things from "shallow" to "presumptuous" and often incurr the "no one owes you sex, you male pig" lecture...just for not liking it happening. If any if them actually wanted to be friends they wouldn't act like they were slapped when guys do it.
Girls are so funny. Someone said it about another topic here recently: Methinks the lady doth project too much.
I'm going to have to start doing this more.
A few months ago I decided on a second date that this girl might not be all that interested or I was possibly being used for AW purposes, which annoyed me, but I was genuinely fine with actually being friends with her. She has others. On the way to taking her home she was already miffed that I pretty much called her on her ****, then I suggested that we "just be friends" and it was pretty clear she was pissed. LOL
Priceless. Chicks friend zone guys constantly and when guys don't like it they get called all manner of things from "shallow" to "presumptuous" and often incurr the "no one owes you sex, you male pig" lecture...just for not liking it happening. If any if them actually wanted to be friends they wouldn't act like they were slapped when guys do it.
Girls are so funny. Someone said it about another topic here recently: Methinks the lady doth project too much.
I'm going to have to start doing this more.
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
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I too have used this. Girls are too used to in this day and age in getting what they want. There pedastal is storeys high - just look when they upload a facebook photo and you have guys and girls in they hundreds telling them how great they look etc.
When girls don't get what they want, they TRY harder. I've got a question though, would you do this in the same situation if you were INTERESTED in the HB and things seemed to actually be working out? Or just keep up with your game; flirting, teasing, compliments here and there and kino?
When girls don't get what they want, they TRY harder. I've got a question though, would you do this in the same situation if you were INTERESTED in the HB and things seemed to actually be working out? Or just keep up with your game; flirting, teasing, compliments here and there and kino?
Uncharted
Master Don Juan
I would never LJBF a chick I was interested in. What if she says "ok I agree"? You f'ed yourself.
First let me just say that this thread is ****ing epic! It makes me feel good inside when gender roles are reversed and girls have to deal with the ****.
Also, good ****ing job on replying to her texts, handled it like a pro
The only way she would sleep with him is if she is VERY VERY VERY ****ing insecure, and she needs the sex, rather than the compliance, to feel she has regained her validity.
Also, good ****ing job on replying to her texts, handled it like a pro
Actually no. She's not serving it to him on a plate, and she'll most likely NEVER sleep with him, she's just trying to use her sexuality to regain her validation. Once her ego is fed by him eating it up she'll drop him because shes proven to herself once and for all that she is hot.5string said:
The only way she would sleep with him is if she is VERY VERY VERY ****ing insecure, and she needs the sex, rather than the compliance, to feel she has regained her validity.
Uncharted
Master Don Juan
Agreed - she just needs to validate herself. I think if I ever did make a move she would blow me off then feel better about herself.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
5string
Master Don Juan
Well said. Even if she refuses to give it up, he can still walk. Why not give it a shot? Nothing to lose.AlexLefty said:First let me just say that this thread is ****ing epic! It makes me feel good inside when gender roles are reversed and girls have to deal with the ****.
Also, good ****ing job on replying to her texts, handled it like a pro
Actually no. She's not serving it to him on a plate, and she'll most likely NEVER sleep with him, she's just trying to use her sexuality to regain her validation. Once her ego is fed by him eating it up she'll drop him because shes proven to herself once and for all that she is hot.
The only way she would sleep with him is if she is VERY VERY VERY ****ing insecure, and she needs the sex, rather than the compliance, to feel she has regained her validity.
Night-hawk
Master Don Juan
I have found that girls who have selected a guy as a beta hate when said perceived beta delivers a surprising blow to her ego, devalidating her sense of superiority over the guy. However, most girls have learnt that many betas will initially portray a false frame (as mentioned in chateaus latest post) and will manipulate the guy back to suplication. Women hate when betas bite at their disinterest out of a distorted belief they have a chance. However she knows she is leaving bate, and wants to just enough so he will make her feel special.
This is why women have orbiters because they know alpha guys aren't going to validate them and bite at their stupid bate, unless it is genuine and she will make damn sure he knows it is. But when she isn't getting her princess feelings fed from bad boy she will go to the beta guy for it. However, she knows she may have to rekindle the gravity to pull him back in her orbit, so she gives him little IOIs until he starts making her feel special again.
So yes. When you flip the gender roles and give it to girls as they most knowingly do to saps, and fools, and decent guys nonetheless, you will notice they may act like we have been discussing.
This is why women have orbiters because they know alpha guys aren't going to validate them and bite at their stupid bate, unless it is genuine and she will make damn sure he knows it is. But when she isn't getting her princess feelings fed from bad boy she will go to the beta guy for it. However, she knows she may have to rekindle the gravity to pull him back in her orbit, so she gives him little IOIs until he starts making her feel special again.
So yes. When you flip the gender roles and give it to girls as they most knowingly do to saps, and fools, and decent guys nonetheless, you will notice they may act like we have been discussing.
Social repercussions. If she's in the same social circle, or knows some of the same people he does, going after her could negatively impact him. Even though he has nothing to lose with HER, he has something to lose elsewhere. For ex: If he says '**** it', and then she rejects him, she now has the power to tell this to all her friends...she can tell everyone what a loser he is and how he just wants her for sex blah blah etc. etc. If they know the same people, this could directly hurt his chances with said girl.5string said:
Girls are pretty funny. Quick to reject but can't take the heat of the kitchen hehe. Make me remind of that time when a female co-worker was talking about an action movie she want it to go see. So I told her that since I want it to see the same movie we should go together. The next day, she come to me saying that she love a boy from school and because of that she doesn't wanna go with me. I told her: " i just want it to see the movie...Ok, so you thought I love you or something" she left so quick ! She never spoke to me and had that angry face don her until I quit the job.
My oneitis was slowly getting mad when I started caller her homie and my best friend... those females are crazy.
My oneitis was slowly getting mad when I started caller her homie and my best friend... those females are crazy.
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TillTheEndOfTime
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Was slowly what?badboyjmm said:
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Slowly getting mad, saying things like: " well you are putting too much emphasis on the fact that I am you friend"TillTheEndOfTime said:
I told her whats wrong with stating the obvious ? She couldn't answer. Another time I was talking about girls that I meet with my cousin by saying: "So I was with my cousin and I meet those females friends and it was cool. So me and my friends decided to chill at this spot"
she stop me in the middle of the conversation by saying: "Well they are not really your friends since it was the first time you've meet them (they are really good friends with my cousin) are you trying to make me jealous, badboyjmm?" For what reason I ask... girl was like I dont know....
Then she said later one:" if I come to your city for the event with you, if you tell people that I am your girlfriend, people will believe it"
I replied: " you are not my girlfriend so why would I lie about this to people ? "
She thought about it for a second then said: " well I dont know but I know people would believe you"
Hot and cold behavior, I just can't stand it anymore