I know its a bit controversial on here, but he is interesting. What with the methods and phases and qualifications and all that, I mean, how does one make it work for them? How do you ingrain the terminology? I mean,is it all really just approach, open, follow the model(s)? For example,this vid: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=z1fhXRGYJec&feature=related and how he talks about time bridging, bringing her into you're world,etc. What if you dont have that going for you? Like a super active social life?
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
I have been watching some of Mysteries vids on youtube...
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
All those questions are answered in the Mystery Method ebook. I found it very hard to grasp the whole method and terminology until I downloaded the ebook. And I'm so glad I did because I must've read 5 times and I still need to turn to it for advice. The method is extremely detailed and missing one of the steps can mess up the whole thing. It all makes clear sense once you're in the field tho.
I like Mystery's stuff, but sometimes I think it's just too much thought and analysis. I like to keep things simple: approach a chick, be yourself, establish rapport, then f-close or #-close (depending on the situation).
For a beginner or someone without a lot of game, that might be easier said than done... but that's what PRACTICE is for. The more times you rinse and repeat that process, the easier it gets.
For a beginner or someone without a lot of game, that might be easier said than done... but that's what PRACTICE is for. The more times you rinse and repeat that process, the easier it gets.
The Inside Man
Master Don Juan
that's the problem with that shiet.. trying to make a system out of a free flowing art. ive heard people talk about all that A1, B2 ****. only useful for people with limited social skills IMO. I prefer to go with the flow and react to opportunities as they present themselves. But that only comes after years of experience, I've certainly taken my lumps along the way.
Well, for someone has alot less to almost I want to say no game, how do you develop game? What if youre behind? I mean, is that method too advanced? Or what about someone who may not have the effort for it? What about someone who believes just be yourself? What if you arent that center of attention? What if you just dont go out and approach? What if you just want to meet a nice girl and get married? Or are women so screwed up due to "feminism" and "independence", that its too out of the question?
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
I know. I know I want to go out more, but I dont. I stay in and watch life pass bye. This is whats killing me. Its like I have forgot how to enjoy myself. I mean, this depression has gotten the best of me.
I like the Mystery Method. People say that using routines and lying is bad but here's the thing. Say you don't have many interesting stories, so you borrow some off the internet, if you then go out 4 days a week trying to improve your game you will end up with a sh!tloads of real funny stories from that! From there you can make your own routines, or if you have enough experiance you cna ditch them all together.
@ItsOnNow: All your questions will be answered in the field!! Get out there and try it.
You really don't have to follow the model exactly. Just go with what FEELS right. The Mystery Method can be simple if you let it.
Attraction:
1. Open with something interesting.
2. Transition into normal conversaion from that.
3. Disqualify her to create the impresion of higher value. Do this by small negs, push/pull with emphasis on the push, ask her qualifying questions.
4. Qualify her. Make her work for your attention then tell her you like her in subtle ways.
Most important in this phase is to just be and have FUN.
Comfort:
1,2 and 3: Try and make a genuine connetion with her. Ask her interesting emotional questions like 'What was your most embarrasing moment?' and 'what is the craziest thing you have ever done?'. Tell her stories about yourself and your life and what is impotant to you. Find similarities.
Seduction:
If you are in a place where you can have sex, do it.
Just go OUT, you will find real answers there. It isn't too 'advanced' for you, if you want to use the Mystery Method as training wheels it is just simulating a normal attractive inteaction.
(For the record I have read the Venusian Arts Handbook and Magic Bullets)
@ItsOnNow: All your questions will be answered in the field!! Get out there and try it.
You really don't have to follow the model exactly. Just go with what FEELS right. The Mystery Method can be simple if you let it.
Attraction:
1. Open with something interesting.
2. Transition into normal conversaion from that.
3. Disqualify her to create the impresion of higher value. Do this by small negs, push/pull with emphasis on the push, ask her qualifying questions.
4. Qualify her. Make her work for your attention then tell her you like her in subtle ways.
Most important in this phase is to just be and have FUN.
Comfort:
1,2 and 3: Try and make a genuine connetion with her. Ask her interesting emotional questions like 'What was your most embarrasing moment?' and 'what is the craziest thing you have ever done?'. Tell her stories about yourself and your life and what is impotant to you. Find similarities.
Seduction:
If you are in a place where you can have sex, do it.
Just go OUT, you will find real answers there. It isn't too 'advanced' for you, if you want to use the Mystery Method as training wheels it is just simulating a normal attractive inteaction.
(For the record I have read the Venusian Arts Handbook and Magic Bullets)
daygameguy
Master Don Juan
MM is a just breakdown of a courtship. You don't need to remember the method as A1-A2-A3 etc... you need to know the linear phase by phase approach.. and come up with your own style and structure.ItsOnNow said:I know its a bit controversial on here, but he is interesting. What with the methods and phases and qualifications and all that, I mean, how does one make it work for them? How do you ingrain the terminology? I mean,is it all really just approach, open, follow the model(s)? For example,this vid: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=z1fhXRGYJec&feature=related and how he talks about time bridging, bringing her into you're world,etc. What if you dont have that going for you? Like a super active social life?
It basically is,
OPEN
NEG(optional) + DHV
QUALIFY
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BUILD CONNECTION + TRUST + INTIMACY
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SEDUCTION
Style's Annihilation Method:
OPEN
DHV (optional negging)
CREATING EMOTIONAL CONNECTION
CREATING PHYSICAL CONNECTION
SEDUCTION
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I may not be completely accurate with the structure but I can see a commonality in these structures and I know the underlying flow of an approach.
Listen to Style's videos on youtube, and Mystery's videos and find common ideology. For ease, keep the skeleton structure in mind during approach, and other added guidelines will come to your mind with practice.