I know its a bit controversial on here, but he is interesting. What with the methods and phases and qualifications and all that, I mean, how does one make it work for them? How do you ingrain the terminology? I mean,is it all really just approach, open, follow the model(s)? For example,this vid: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=z1fhXRGYJec&feature=related and how he talks about time bridging, bringing her into you're world,etc. What if you dont have that going for you? Like a super active social life?
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
I have been watching some of Mysteries vids on youtube...
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
All those questions are answered in the Mystery Method ebook. I found it very hard to grasp the whole method and terminology until I downloaded the ebook. And I'm so glad I did because I must've read 5 times and I still need to turn to it for advice. The method is extremely detailed and missing one of the steps can mess up the whole thing. It all makes clear sense once you're in the field tho.
I like Mystery's stuff, but sometimes I think it's just too much thought and analysis. I like to keep things simple: approach a chick, be yourself, establish rapport, then f-close or #-close (depending on the situation).
For a beginner or someone without a lot of game, that might be easier said than done... but that's what PRACTICE is for. The more times you rinse and repeat that process, the easier it gets.
For a beginner or someone without a lot of game, that might be easier said than done... but that's what PRACTICE is for. The more times you rinse and repeat that process, the easier it gets.
The Inside Man
Master Don Juan
that's the problem with that shiet.. trying to make a system out of a free flowing art. ive heard people talk about all that A1, B2 ****. only useful for people with limited social skills IMO. I prefer to go with the flow and react to opportunities as they present themselves. But that only comes after years of experience, I've certainly taken my lumps along the way.
Well, for someone has alot less to almost I want to say no game, how do you develop game? What if youre behind? I mean, is that method too advanced? Or what about someone who may not have the effort for it? What about someone who believes just be yourself? What if you arent that center of attention? What if you just dont go out and approach? What if you just want to meet a nice girl and get married? Or are women so screwed up due to "feminism" and "independence", that its too out of the question?
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
I know. I know I want to go out more, but I dont. I stay in and watch life pass bye. This is whats killing me. Its like I have forgot how to enjoy myself. I mean, this depression has gotten the best of me.
I like the Mystery Method. People say that using routines and lying is bad but here's the thing. Say you don't have many interesting stories, so you borrow some off the internet, if you then go out 4 days a week trying to improve your game you will end up with a sh!tloads of real funny stories from that! From there you can make your own routines, or if you have enough experiance you cna ditch them all together.
@ItsOnNow: All your questions will be answered in the field!! Get out there and try it.
You really don't have to follow the model exactly. Just go with what FEELS right. The Mystery Method can be simple if you let it.
Attraction:
1. Open with something interesting.
2. Transition into normal conversaion from that.
3. Disqualify her to create the impresion of higher value. Do this by small negs, push/pull with emphasis on the push, ask her qualifying questions.
4. Qualify her. Make her work for your attention then tell her you like her in subtle ways.
Most important in this phase is to just be and have FUN.
Comfort:
1,2 and 3: Try and make a genuine connetion with her. Ask her interesting emotional questions like 'What was your most embarrasing moment?' and 'what is the craziest thing you have ever done?'. Tell her stories about yourself and your life and what is impotant to you. Find similarities.
Seduction:
If you are in a place where you can have sex, do it.
Just go OUT, you will find real answers there. It isn't too 'advanced' for you, if you want to use the Mystery Method as training wheels it is just simulating a normal attractive inteaction.
(For the record I have read the Venusian Arts Handbook and Magic Bullets)
@ItsOnNow: All your questions will be answered in the field!! Get out there and try it.
You really don't have to follow the model exactly. Just go with what FEELS right. The Mystery Method can be simple if you let it.
Attraction:
1. Open with something interesting.
2. Transition into normal conversaion from that.
3. Disqualify her to create the impresion of higher value. Do this by small negs, push/pull with emphasis on the push, ask her qualifying questions.
4. Qualify her. Make her work for your attention then tell her you like her in subtle ways.
Most important in this phase is to just be and have FUN.
Comfort:
1,2 and 3: Try and make a genuine connetion with her. Ask her interesting emotional questions like 'What was your most embarrasing moment?' and 'what is the craziest thing you have ever done?'. Tell her stories about yourself and your life and what is impotant to you. Find similarities.
Seduction:
If you are in a place where you can have sex, do it.
Just go OUT, you will find real answers there. It isn't too 'advanced' for you, if you want to use the Mystery Method as training wheels it is just simulating a normal attractive inteaction.
(For the record I have read the Venusian Arts Handbook and Magic Bullets)
daygameguy
Master Don Juan
MM is a just breakdown of a courtship. You don't need to remember the method as A1-A2-A3 etc... you need to know the linear phase by phase approach.. and come up with your own style and structure.ItsOnNow said:I know its a bit controversial on here, but he is interesting. What with the methods and phases and qualifications and all that, I mean, how does one make it work for them? How do you ingrain the terminology? I mean,is it all really just approach, open, follow the model(s)? For example,this vid: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=z1fhXRGYJec&feature=related and how he talks about time bridging, bringing her into you're world,etc. What if you dont have that going for you? Like a super active social life?
It basically is,
OPEN
NEG(optional) + DHV
QUALIFY
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BUILD CONNECTION + TRUST + INTIMACY
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SEDUCTION
Style's Annihilation Method:
OPEN
DHV (optional negging)
CREATING EMOTIONAL CONNECTION
CREATING PHYSICAL CONNECTION
SEDUCTION
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I may not be completely accurate with the structure but I can see a commonality in these structures and I know the underlying flow of an approach.
Listen to Style's videos on youtube, and Mystery's videos and find common ideology. For ease, keep the skeleton structure in mind during approach, and other added guidelines will come to your mind with practice.