"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I have a boyfriend.

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Well, you don't see me talking about my girlfriend.

Problem solved.

Edit: kudos to those who assume I'm suddenly gay from reading the thread title :p
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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You should never hear that word - even if she has one.
 

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bigneil said:
You should never hear that word - even if she has one.
I generally agree, but some girls are just waiting to be dragged away from them, I say take such steps based on her interest level, if she disses you straight out then it's definitely a no-go.
I've got the "I have a boyfriend line" From several girls before, some of them were bored of their pathetic boyfriends (Wouldn't give them good sex, believe it or not!) and won't switch out for you unless they can put the blame on something else. Doesn't matter to me though.
 

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You must be young because a seasoned guy will be able to read and distinguish her sub communication cues while dispeling resistance to further initiate reciprocation...but im not getting into that for now. However, I want to stay on point by saying for ONE, why do you want some ***** that already has a collar? You want to lick from the same bowl for some ego trip go for it. TWO, why do you think a girl who will hop on your ass with a boyfriend makes you think you have some mighty game? Boy, you are a pigeon. Go after girls who are single because all you are doing is teaching girls you are a plausible deniable side dish to her at home main course (or is that secured course) And for all you know the guy she is with is fed up with her ****.

If you must...and she is hot... Flick her and dump her next to tomorrow's news, because you know she will either be searching classifieds for a new guy, or going to piss on someone else's paper. Stay fresh man.
 

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Night-hawk said:
You must be young because a seasoned guy will be able to read and distinguish her sub communication cues while dispeling resistance to further initiate reciprocation...but im not getting into that for now. However, I want to stay on point by saying for ONE, why do you want some ***** that already has a collar? You want to lick from the same bowl for some ego trip go for it. TWO, why do you think a girl who will hop on your ass with a boyfriend makes you think you have some mighty game? Boy, you are a pigeon. Go after girls who are single because all you are doing is teaching girls you are a plausible deniable side dish to her at home main course (or is that secured course) And for all you know the guy she is with is fed up with her ****.

If you must...and she is hot... Flick her and dump her next to tomorrow's news, because you know she will either be searching classifieds for a new guy, or going to piss on someone else's paper. Stay fresh man.
Dude, calm, I have multiple plates, these girls are just side-dishes for me as well.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Fair.

For another wonderer here then :)

The boyfriend scenario might be their cup of tea.
 
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